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Postby grantourismo » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:25 pm

question regarding KYB black shocks

they're 10 % stiffer than factory shock ?
would they work well with king's lower spring ?

if there are good articles regarding shocks and suspension in the forum would member post it up please !

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Postby bbq1988 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:36 pm

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Postby 2LTR Rona » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:52 pm

From my personal experiance using KYB shocks & King spring yes it is stiffer than factory & provided for a faily nice ride too.

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Postby Cakky » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:00 pm

im using kyb/king yeah not hugely stiff but good improvement over factory :)
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Postby Bling » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:57 pm

how about ask KYB themselves??? we aren't here to spoon feed people who can't be bothered doing ANY homework for themselves!
You will find that if you put in a little bit of research yourself, you will actually find out what you want to know.

start here: http://www.kybshocks.com.au/


I have them too but my factory shocks were stuffed so can't compare.
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Postby grantourismo » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:16 pm

8O

i did do researches over internet, but I believe if i get information from the toyspeed members would be more accurate because people here are more enthusastic :D so they would have more fair opinion
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Postby Truenotch » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:23 pm

kyb's will be stiffer, but aren't made to be used with low springs normally. Same as any other stock shock, if you go really low they will need to be shortened to keep the spring captive.
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Postby grantourismo » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:27 pm

Truenotch wrote:kyb's will be stiffer, but aren't made to be used with low springs normally. Same as any other stock shock, if you go really low they will need to be shortened to keep the spring captive.


u mean shorten the shock absorbers ? how is that done @_@?
what if i am just going for 20mm lowered would that cause a big issue ?
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Postby 2LTR Rona » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:53 pm

grantourismo wrote:
Truenotch wrote:kyb's will be stiffer, but aren't made to be used with low springs normally. Same as any other stock shock, if you go really low they will need to be shortened to keep the spring captive.


u mean shorten the shock absorbers ? how is that done @_@?
what if i am just going for 20mm lowered would that cause a big issue ?


if you are looking at a 20mm drop you will probably not have to worry about gettng the shocks shortened. in my personal experiance I didnt need to.

With King springs (assuming you are not using super low) you will probably find a drop of around 40mm is more likely, once again in my experiance shocks did not have to be shortend

what car are you looking at putting this setup in to ?


BZG|Bling- How do you know grantourismo HASN'T already done that? Chances are you dont :) Not everyone is as all knowledgeable as yourself :)

As grantourismo has said, what you read on a site can "sometimes" be rather different to how it performs, everyone needs to start somewhere eh :)
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Postby Bling » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:15 pm

2LTR Rona wrote:BZG|Bling- How do you know grantourismo HASN'T already done that? Chances are you dont :) Not everyone is as all knowledgeable as yourself :)


what I know has nothing to do with my comments, I have KYBs, but I have no idea if they are 10% stiffer than factory items, only KYB will be able to give him that info i'd say. So thats why I suggested he look them up and search there site or something.

If he had done it this thread wouldn't exist :wink:


All I suggested was using the proper source of such info. If he had asked how do KYB shocks perform in general, I would have posted that they give a good ride when coupled with a good set of springs, lowered or not. Lots of people bag kings though, so this could be up for debate :lol:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:44 pm

10% stiffer than stock?
im not so sure about that!


and king springs.... i would look at TEIN
i am not a fan of king springs.
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Postby bbq1988 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:14 am

Go green for tein :p good price to, have a look at AL's site www.drivenperformance.co.nz
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Postby Akane » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:24 am

Mr Revhead wrote:and king springs.... i would look at TEIN
i am not a fan of king springs.


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Not a big fan with the KYB/Kings or Koni/Kings setup.
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Postby grantourismo » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:05 pm

2LTR Rona wrote:
grantourismo wrote:
Truenotch wrote:kyb's will be stiffer, but aren't made to be used with low springs normally. Same as any other stock shock, if you go really low they will need to be shortened to keep the spring captive.


u mean shorten the shock absorbers ? how is that done @_@?
what if i am just going for 20mm lowered would that cause a big issue ?


if you are looking at a 20mm drop you will probably not have to worry about gettng the shocks shortened. in my personal experiance I didnt need to.

With King springs (assuming you are not using super low) you will probably find a drop of around 40mm is more likely, once again in my experiance shocks did not have to be shortend

what car are you looking at putting this setup in to ?


BZG|Bling- How do you know grantourismo HASN'T already done that? Chances are you dont :) Not everyone is as all knowledgeable as yourself :)

As grantourismo has said, what you read on a site can "sometimes" be rather different to how it performs, everyone needs to start somewhere eh :)



toyota corona liftback 1996 :mrgreen: 40mm drop for a lowering spring even it is not a super low ? 8O

that is what i am most concerned about some feed back are positive some are negative . i guess it is all about the driver's perspect. I assume the KYB shock wont be suitable for :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: INITIAL D style drive.

At the moment I have decided to go for KYB with kings or HR spring . I am just "get from A point to B point" driver , all I want is better performance over factory but not too stiff.

So what do you member have for HR springs ? I would like to have some advice for that one
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Postby docTRD » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:49 pm

my personal experience with kyb shocks is pretty good i recommend them as a good entry level upgrade as they are a little stiffer than stock and will last a good few years. my ae92 GT sedan has them in the rear and made a lot of difference in handling and cornering. my gx71 cressida has kybs all round and is a bit better but the factory springs are soft as f*$K so when you go shocks springs aswel is a good idea. and agreed tein are good springs to go for. stay away from lovell they are pretty average and soft.
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Postby tsoob » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:42 pm

kyb is really just oem so not gonna give you a huge improvement over stock.

I think the real question that has been missed here is,
What are you setting the car up for?
is it daily driver? if so then kyb/king would be fine,
Track, you need better shocks and as stated above king's are so so for that application
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