How powerful is the most powerful 4age/4agze/4agte?

[matt dunn]

The levin on trade me the 355hp is at the wheels was tuned on nz efi's dyno

Oh BTW for the beer the dyno reading cannot be from tricky tune or tourque performance

Are there reading not that accurate? lol,


Aparantly that red Levin on trademe raced in my class when I first started,
but I cannot ever remember it?

[JustinSpiderholden]

The levin on trade me the 355hp is at the wheels was tuned on nz efi's dyno

Oh BTW for the beer the dyno reading cannot be from tricky tune or tourque performance

Are there reading not that accurate? lol,


Aparantly that red Levin on trademe raced in my class when I first started,
but I cannot ever remember it?

Id say both tricky tune and tp both read higher than average

[barryogen]

Aparantly that red Levin on trademe raced in my class when I first started,
but I cannot ever remember it?

Having seen a few videos of your car, he was probably a long way behind you

[Crucible]

Any of those 4agtes using 30psi 1600 etc, id like to see them out on a circuit and see how long they last .

yeah exactly, they would suck the kumera pretty damn fast!!!

[Crampy]

Any of those 4agtes using 30psi 1600 etc, id like to see them out on a circuit and see how long they last .

yeah exactly, they would suck the kumera pretty damn fast!!!

Which is why it's not always about peak power. Hell, do people here even bother to look at the rest of their dyno plot, or are they only interested in the magical peak power number.

Barry turns his boost right down when on the circuit (well compared to his peak boost setting), as it makes his car a whole lot more controlable.

[method]

Any of those 4agtes using 30psi 1600 etc, id like to see them out on a circuit and see how long they last .

yeah exactly, they would suck the kumera pretty damn fast!!!

Which is why it's not always about peak power. Hell, do people here even bother to look at the rest of their dyno plot, or are they only interested in the magical peak power number.

Barry turns his boost right down when on the circuit (well compared to his peak boost setting), as it makes his car a whole lot more controlable.

The winner is the one with the highest and flattest torque "curve".

[MR2SIK]

im not sure about the highest, but my old aw11s torque curve was flatter than a pre pubesent paris

edit...

[Lith]

The winner is the one with the highest and flattest torque "curve".

The winner of what - the highest and flattest torque curve prize? If the torque curve is high and flat, but only goes up to 3000rpm - it won't stand a show against a car with a bit of a peaky torque curve which floats between 2/3rds and 3/4s of the high flat one but doesn't start to drop off until 7000rpm...

[IH8TEC]

who cares about dyno's, how many guys OVER 200kw in a fwd 4agte have hit mid 12's


EDIT: yet to go on a circuit

[~SlideWays~]

who cares about dyno's, how many guys OVER 200kw in a fwd 4agte have hit mid 12's


EDIT: yet to go on a circuit

pffft Levin drivers....geeez

[Crucible]

who cares about dyno's, how many guys OVER 200kw in a fwd 4agte have hit mid 12's


EDIT: yet to go on a circuit

yeah yeah yeah,

bloody had to rub it in didnt yah

[method]

The winner is the one with the highest and flattest torque "curve".

The winner of what - the highest and flattest torque curve prize? If the torque curve is high and flat, but only goes up to 3000rpm - it won't stand a show against a car with a bit of a peaky torque curve which floats between 2/3rds and 3/4s of the high flat one but doesn't start to drop off until 7000rpm...

Well if it dropps off at 3k its hardly flat, i was meaning flat as in stays flat until redline. Flat torque curve to redline = good fun to drive like MR2SIK's one. Just keeps pulling and nice and drivable. IMOH

Some people like peaky torque curvs and cars that make no power under 6krpm

[Lith]

Well if it dropps off at 3k its hardly flat, i was meaning flat as in stays flat until redline. Flat torque curve to redline = good fun to drive like MR2SIK's one. Just keeps pulling and nice and drivable. IMOH

Some people like peaky torque curvs and cars that make no power under 6krpm

You never said anything about what revs to go to, or where the redline is. His torque was petering off well before redline, as any would be. A torque curve that was literally flat forever would be perfect (because it would provide infinite power), would be nice - but not really possible. The best power curve to have is roughly (there is more to it really) the one that has the highest average through the "used" rev range. In my car for example that'd be the average from say 4500rpm to 7000rpm. Below there its a bit bumpy (more to do with lack of boost controller at the time than anything else) but from there on the power just builds strong and hard. Once the torque is up, it holds pretty strong up until redline.

The torque line on my graph looks a lot more dramatic than MRSik's one, but thats more because the dyno goes right down to lower revs (1500rpm is before most turbos are really doing anything, which exaggerates the "lag" of any turbo car), and the fact dynapack software focusses into the area of the torque graph which the car hits, instead of starting at zero which makes the thing look a LOT flatter than it really is. Mine:

[matt dunn]

Aparantly that red Levin on trademe raced in my class when I first started,
but I cannot ever remember it?

Having seen a few videos of your car, he was probably a long way behind you

Maybe, but that was way back when we struggled to make 300hp with it?

[Bazda]

The levin on trade me the 355hp is at the wheels was tuned on nz efi's dyno

Oh BTW for the beer the dyno reading cannot be from tricky tune or tourque performance

Are there reading not that accurate? lol,


Aparantly that red Levin on trademe raced in my class when I first started,
but I cannot ever remember it?

I used tricky tune. My power seems to be pretty correct with 1/4 mile times i do.

But Edgell set most parameters as he was the one who did the tuen using his dyno..

Id say both tricky tune and tp both read higher than average

[4agtepwr]

Gimmie 3 weeks im pretty keen to take those beers

[escortman]

who cares about dyno's, how many guys OVER 200kw in a fwd 4agte have hit mid 12's


EDIT: yet to go on a circuit

i hope to be one of them soon hehe

[method]

wank wank

do you always nit pick like that?

Your an idiot if you didnt understand what i meant.

I was simply saying i prefer to drive cars which are nice and drivable, usually bigger displacement engines without stupidly big turbos. which is the opposite to most jap cars. Friends dad has a slightly modified 911, 996 turbo. Awesome awesome car to drive.

But ok i'm wrong, your car is obviously the best and is perfect in every way coz it make 280kw woop woop.

[Bazda]

wank wank

do you always nit pick like that?

Your an idiot if you didnt understand what i meant.

I was simply saying i prefer to drive cars which are nice and drivable, usually bigger displacement engines without stupidly big turbos. which is the opposite to most jap cars. Friends dad has a slightly modified 911, 996 turbo. Awesome awesome car to drive.

But ok i'm wrong, your car is obviously the best and is perfect in every way coz it make 280kw woop woop.

No my car is the best!!!

[RomanV]

im not sure about the highest, but my old aw11s torque curve was flatter than a pre pubesent paris

But you can change the scale of the graph to make it look as flat or peaky as you want.... In your dyno plot, the 'scale' used has been condensed down to just a small amount of the height of the HP graph.

You need to overlay them on the same scale, or take a close look at the numbers to really determine if a particular torque curve/figure is better than the other.

P.S. My 2E wins the flattest torque curve contest, it makes the same amount of no power everywhere.