Nationals Fibre to the home/premise, Yay or Nay?

rolla_fxgt · Post by **rolla_fxgt** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:32 pm

I'm sure most of you would of heard that national is proposing fibre to the home/premise or alternatives where better suited.

Do people think its a great idea?

Thoughts?

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:34 pm

to soon to tell....

would need to see a few more details about the plan really.
all iv heard is they want to achieve X by X date

Mr.Phreak · Post by **Mr.Phreak** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:38 pm

Fibre to the home is a great idea......

The implementation of said idea is anyone's guess

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:48 pm

How do you tell if a politician is lying?

Their lips are moving.

B1NZ · Post by **B1NZ** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:49 pm

As long as it doesnt cut funding from other vital services I'm fine with it, But I'm happy with my interweb at the moment, I can understand the frustrations of some people though, some rural areas just need a decent phone line fullstop, then maybe they can get xtraslow broadband

fivebob · Post by **fivebob** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:54 pm

It's worth more to NZ economy than it's going to cost, so it's a worthwhile investment.

The alternative is to get further and further behind the rest of the world, lose money, oppurtunities and more skilled people because we can't compete.

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:26 pm

They should start by doing the whole south island first to see if it work out how they want it to

neon_spork · Post by **neon_spork** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:03 pm

The local electricity network company is already putting in fibre to the home in Whangarei.

gurutasker · Post by **gurutasker** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:08 pm

Good idea in theory...

Proposed way of implementing. Utterly stupid.

1.) Who is going to maintain the network? Fibre is quite expensive to fix when it gets broken. Is it going to be charged out of tax / rates ?
2.) AFAIK the new "Fibre boxes" that are being installed by Telecom, are completely telecom owned. Whence they will own all the terminitation points again, and start charging other ISP's to use them. Therfore, no competition, large pricing
3.) Joint Public / Private ventures have not worked well in the past. Wellington's rail network for example. Toll gets all the profits, and the government still has to pay out of it's pocket to maintain the railway lines themselves.

solitaire · Post by **solitaire** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:23 pm

HRT wrote:They should start by doing the whole south island first to see if it work out how they want it to

What are sheep going to do with fibre?

Jokes... dont ban me - couldnt resist! :lol:

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:20 am

rofl Solitaire :lol:

wait thats directed at......

I'd rather get fibre to everyone than have the dole available, but thats a whole other topic :lol:

so i'm going to say yeah do it, but keep telecom out of the loop. Although i'm moving to an area with the ability to get a 25Mb connection so i'm not worried that much. (I can only afford 2Mb anyways

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competition ftw

gurutasker · Post by **gurutasker** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:41 am

It will certainly be better if they build that competition to the southern cross cable.

solitaire · Post by **solitaire** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:44 am

gurutasker wrote:It will certainly be better if they build that competition to the southern cross cable.

Whos doing that? I would be amazed if someone was going to build another link - its costs a good few million a year to maintain it and there are a couple of redudant links already.

Cant see the point in building another one...

d1 mule · Post by **d1 mule** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:55 am

i fail to see the point in it really, its such a minor thing to be spending so much money on.

it was only in the last month that broadband user numbers exceded dial up numbers.

oh and its 75% of the population so only the major citys. what about rural and small towns...

rolla_fxgt · Post by **rolla_fxgt** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:11 am

solitaire wrote:
gurutasker wrote:It will certainly be better if they build that competition to the southern cross cable.
Whos doing that? I would be amazed if someone was going to build another link - its costs a good few million a year to maintain it and there are a couple of redudant links already.

Cant see the point in building another one...

Kordia & some aussie cable company called pipe, its going to be a tee off a cable the aussie company is building to Guam.

Also rumours of a 3rd cable too, which i think should go from Hobart to Bluff, so that if anything happens to what i assume is a cable across cook strait the south island still has interent at decent speeds & capacity

rolla_fxgt · Post by **rolla_fxgt** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:14 am

d1 mule wrote:i fail to see the point in it really, its such a minor thing to be spending so much money on.

it was only in the last month that broadband user numbers exceded dial up numbers.

oh and its 75% of the population so only the major citys. what about rural and small towns...

I think 75% of the population is any town over 2000 people or homes, i don't know which, but its one of those figures anyway, if its 2000 homes, that's a town of about 8000 people, hell that means even Gore would get it :lol:

solitaire · Post by **solitaire** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:27 am

rolla_fxgt wrote:Kordia & some aussie cable company called pipe, its going to be a tee off a cable the aussie company is building to Guam.

Also rumours of a 3rd cable too, which i think should go from Hobart to Bluff, so that if anything happens to what i assume is a cable across cook strait the south island still has interent at decent speeds & capacity

Ah, i bet they just rely on the fact that telecom spends millions a year on ensuring the southern cross cable is kept up and running, cant see 3 different companies spending that sort of money for such a small population

Alex B · Post by **Alex B** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:27 pm

d1 mule wrote:i fail to see the point in it really, its such a minor thing to be spending so much money on.

Are you looking at it from a home user point of view of a business point of view?

neo · Post by **neo** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:40 pm

Fibre to the home is a brilliant idea, but the costs > rewards.

DSL works for a majority of ppl, its just upstream of the customers last mile that needs to be sorted

Mr.Phreak · Post by **Mr.Phreak** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:08 pm

Some people only seem to think Fibre is used for downloading porn faster

Toyspeed

Nationals Fibre to the home/premise, Yay or Nay?

Do you think fibre to the home/premise is a good idea?

Nationals Fibre to the home/premise, Yay or Nay?