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by **Quirky** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:56 pm

Hello peoples.
I just got my car of the dyno.
And i just want to compare results to see if my car is either making the correct amount of power, or too low?

Its a stock 4agze and the car made:
98kw ATW
156.2Nm of torque.
Ill get a picture soon

Is this within range with what other people got.

Temperature: 30 degrees.
Dynamic Test Systems dyno.

Im gonna purchase a K&N panel filter and go back to the dyno, and see if its a worthwhile purchase. Though it wouldnt matter since id have to buy the product in the first place...

by **flygt4** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:05 pm

only real way to compare to is do a direct comparison to a similar car on the same dyno.

on most dyno's though 98kw is a very healthy 4agze.

by **Quirky** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:08 pm

Yea i figured it had to be on the same dyno.

I am the only bloke with a 4agze within 500kms

There was a guy with a Blacktop 20 valve that made 84kw, and well, i laughed at those outputs.
Because dont the blacktop and 4agze make the same power on paper.
Thats a 15kw difference

by **Lith** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:13 pm

Quirky wrote:I am the only bloke with a 4agze within 500kms

Err am I missing something? You live in Welly, there are heaps of 4AGZEs around Welly - or did you just word that badly and actually meant something different?[/quote]

Quirky wrote:There was a guy with a Blacktop 20 valve that made 84kw, and well, i laughed at those outputs. Because dont the blacktop and 4agze make the same power on paper. Thats a 15kw difference

As far as 20v 4AGEs are concerned, the horses Toyota used to measure their power were really really small horses - its a fairly well known fact.

by **Quirky** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:15 pm

Ah sorry, i forgot to update my profile.
Im now located in Cairns, Aus.

Heres the dyno print:

Sorry, dont have a scanner

Power seems very squiggly.

red car · by pc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:40 pm

Making about the same power and torque as my bluetop... so about right for a 4agze :wink:

by **~SlideWays~** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:13 pm

Looks about right if its standard, but which 4agze are we talking here?

EDIT: actually judging by that graph I'd say its a AFM 4agze? (waits to be proven wrong lol)

by **~SlideWays~** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:15 pm

pc wrote:Making about the same power and torque as my bluetop... so about right for a 4agze

Thats playing a bit dirty though isn't it? :lol:

red car · by pc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:25 pm

~SlideWays~ wrote:
pc wrote:Making about the same power and torque as my bluetop... so about right for a 4agze

Thats playing a bit dirty though isn't it?

My torque works out at 142Nm, so couldn't help myself :lol:

by **Adamal** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:34 pm

Even the butt-dyno would notice 14Nm difference

by **Quirky** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:40 pm

~SlideWays~ wrote:Looks about right if its standard, but which 4agze are we talking here?

EDIT: actually judging by that graph I'd say its a AFM 4agze? (waits to be proven wrong lol)

AE101 Levin?
And how could you tell by looking at the graph?

by **AE82 FXGT** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:45 pm

Quirky wrote:
~SlideWays~ wrote:Looks about right if its standard, but which 4agze are we talking here?

EDIT: actually judging by that graph I'd say its a AFM 4agze? (waits to be proven wrong lol)

AE101 Levin?
And how could you tell by looking at the graph?

Unless a transplant has gone down, yours will be a MAP gze.

The power curves for each of the gze's are different.

I think the MAP one trails off a bit on power at higher RPM (correct me if I'm wrong)

by **Quirky** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:51 pm

AE82 FXGT wrote:
Quirky wrote:
~SlideWays~ wrote:Looks about right if its standard, but which 4agze are we talking here?

EDIT: actually judging by that graph I'd say its a AFM 4agze? (waits to be proven wrong lol)

AE101 Levin?
And how could you tell by looking at the graph?

Unless a transplant has gone down, yours will be a MAP gze.

The power curves for each of the gze's are different.

I think the MAP one trails off a bit on power at higher RPM (correct me if I'm wrong)

Yea AE92 Corolla Hatch, with transplanted Levin motor
Anyways, i guess its making the right power, got the answer i need.

One last thing. My car has a really bad idle when the aircon is on. It flickers between 800rpm to about 1200rpm, it doesnt stall, but it really shakes the car up...

by **rollaholic** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:02 pm

sounds like aircon vsv was not connected when transplant was done

by **Truenotch** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:21 am

98kw at the engine seems a bit sluggy for a GZE though... Since some standard facelift silvertops will make 95kw ATW.

by **Lith** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:29 am

Truenotch wrote:98kw at the engine seems a bit sluggy for a GZE though... Since some standard facelift silvertops will make 95kw ATW.

WTF? I've not even seen a stock blacktop make that much - even on happy dynos!

by **Truenotch** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:14 am

Jimmys 101 did it at fortec though didn't it?

by **Quirky** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:45 am

The reading is at the wheels, despite the fact that it says "engine"

Anyways, i stock blacktop makes 84kw ATW, at least on this dyno anyways.

by **Lith** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:14 am

Truenotch wrote:Jimmys 101 did it at fortec though didn't it?

Whose that? Loudtoy? Not sure actually. I remember it doing 92kw on Chequered Flag (happy dyno) but it had exhaust, filter and Jimmy tricks done - given that it also is possibly the fastest NA AE101 down the 1/4 in NZ still (I've not heard of quicker than 14.7 yet) it probably isn't a decent representation of the masses

by **Quirky** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:55 pm

92kw and 14.7 down the quarter, whoar that is damn decent.
Im soon to take my Corolla in about 3-4 weeks time, and id be happy with a mid-low 15 secs (crappy tyres)

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