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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:14 pm

I just picked up my new ST205 water-to-air intercooler tonight, thanks to Cliff. Going to fit it to my SW20. But as i see there are a few problems.

- The throttle body is too long. ST205 is one piece, SW20 is 2 piece. Is there any way i can run a ST205 tb on my motor? Both engines are gen 3.

- I need somewhere to mount the radiator. Do i mount it up front and run pipes all the way back? Or would it be possible to sit it underneath the motor on an angle and duct to it??

- And where am i able to get a water pump to run it?? Needs to be suitable to run full time. Havent got anything at the moment.

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Postby RunningRich » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:48 pm

Throttle body is the same, just the ST205 has a different interface.

Was a pump on trademe recently. Maybe a Subaru one from pickapart?
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:54 pm

RunningRich wrote:Throttle body is the same, just the ST205 has a different interface.

Was a pump on trademe recently. Maybe a Subaru one from pickapart?


So i can use the ST205 one? Or can the 2nd part just be taken off? Cos mine is definately different to Cliffs one.

I forgot about Subbies, i used to have an old subbie pump i got from Alex. Would they be reliable enough to run full time?? Dont really want it stopping and causing detonation or anything :?
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Postby MrOizo » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:03 pm

could you mount the radiator where the stock IC was? unless running the extra lines to the front are used as a reseviour to increase capacity to lessen the chances of the water heating up.
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:07 pm

MrOizo wrote:could you mount the radiator where the stock IC was? unless running the extra lines to the front are used as a reseviour to increase capacity to lessen the chances of the water heating up.


That was one of my other plans, and mounting a fan on it. But i think i would have to use a subbie radiator, as the ST205 one is huge 8O
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Postby Twolitre » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:45 pm

Davies Craig make a suitable pump, I think they call it a booster pump, check it out on their website.
You will also need to acquire the rubber throttle body adapter from an ST205. If it were me I'd try to fit the radiator up front and run piping back but it might be a squeeze if you choose to keep you a/c
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Postby levinguy » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:19 am

what i am doing in the aw11 is using a subaru radiator at the front untill i find something bigger, the 205 one is huge! i would think doing something similar and running hose to the front would be by far the easiest/cheapest way to do it instead of putting it where the stock i/c goes

pump wise im using a st205 pump, running full time, but i think bosch makes a universal 12v water pump that you could use, would proberly be easier to find/better
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Postby Akane » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:27 pm

Hey I have a ST205 interface piece since I've put the ST205 motor into my SW20, if you want that piece gimme a yell :) It's a rubber piece. I'm sure I still have it around.

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Postby Boosted_162 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:39 pm

Akane wrote:Hey I have a ST205 interface piece since I've put the ST205 motor into my SW20, if you want that piece gimme a yell :) It's a rubber piece. I'm sure I still have it around.

"You can always rely on Akane to supply you surplus parts for 3S-GTEs" :)


Awesome. Would you possibly be able to take a picture of it? Im just trying to get my head around it, and its not coming out right :lol: :lol:

Thanks for all your suggestions guys, ill take a look at what room ive got when i have a moment.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:09 pm

i ran the subbie setup on my aw11
worked so well i think it should be a mandatory mod for every aw11

i used two subaru pumps, one to send it forward, and one to send it back, i had them wired so when the ignition was "on" so were they
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Postby quick6 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:19 am

I am running a PWR WTA in the boot of my SW using a subaru pump full time no problems. If your A/C is stuffed (like all the SW's I have owned, as well as most I have seen.....) you could use the A/C condenser up the front as a heat exchanger. Mine is hooked up like that which was supposed to be temporary, but it works better than anticipated with no heat soak issues as yet and what would appear to be ample flow through the core. Watch this space however, the car is going on the dyno this week so it can finally stretch it's legs, I expect this will show up any weaknesses in the system.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:11 am

Yeah i think the mid engine layout is an advantage as it means you have to run long water lines, meaning more capacity. I cant remember how much water my system held, but i was pretty surprised at the time. so heat soak shouldnt be an issue at all
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Postby Akane » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:21 pm

No "stance", no "hellaflush", none of that bullshit. Nothing but no grip on full boost.
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Postby Boosted_162 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:20 pm

Akane wrote:http://lol.co.nz/temp/st205_throttle_interface.jpg

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Now thats what i want. How much you want for it?? Looks like all i need to do is fab up a new throttle cable bracket. Or might try use a ST205 somehow.

I do have aircon, and im pretty sure it still works. But i dont need it, and the condensor is VERY bent from when i crashed it into a towbar (radiator was mint tho :D). So it looks like ill be removing a/c and putting the radiator where the aircon is.

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Postby Akane » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:56 am

I think I have the throttle cable bracket as well, lemme check tomorrow.
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Postby 4agtepwr » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:21 pm

Ive got a 205 intercooler on my aw, and a subbie water pump. It runs off my link so either when theres positve manifold pressure or when the inlet air temps go above 18 deg or around there from memory the pump runs. So on a warm day pretty much all the time. The 205 intercooler works really well under around 340ish hp but then starts to fall over pretty quickly
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Postby Boosted_162 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:31 pm

4agtepwr wrote:Ive got a 205 intercooler on my aw, and a subbie water pump. It runs off my link so either when theres positve manifold pressure or when the inlet air temps go above 18 deg or around there from memory the pump runs. So on a warm day pretty much all the time. The 205 intercooler works really well under around 340ish hp but then starts to fall over pretty quickly


Ahhh damn, looks like it will have to be upgraded in the future then, long term i want more power than that. But al long as i set it up properly, i can just swap it out for a PWR one or similar.

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