Subarus - are they any better these days??

DXROLLA · Post by **DXROLLA** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:42 pm

Ive owned a 1998 STI WRX Type R coupe and was the most fun i have had with the adjustable centre diff ect never had any problems with it and i gave it sh#t, only thing i had to do was cambelt and new tyres as it liked to go sideways alot

would have one again any day, and it was very good on gas i thought for a turbo 4wd, i dont see what every one complains about :?:

repowered · Post by **repowered** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:40 pm

Was talking to a guy in the weekend reckoned he has the #3 22b STi in his garage with less that 87k on the clock with a layer of dust over it.

He said he had never had any troubles with it. but then he never drives it - hasnt driven it in 6 months.

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:20 pm

bloody subarus!

all the ones iv had anything to do with needed work pretty much every time they were driven!
suspension arms replaced
wheel bearings
centre diffs
nuts and bolts coming loose all the time
turbos needing replacing

at least they easier to work on than EVOs!

flygt4 · Post by **flygt4** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:42 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:bloody subarus!

all the ones iv had anything to do with needed work pretty much every time they were driven!
suspension arms replaced
wheel bearings
centre diffs
nuts and bolts coming loose all the time
turbos needing replacing

at least they easier to work on than EVOs!

they werent rally cars by chance :lol:

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:45 pm

BR0Z · Post by **BR0Z** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:24 pm

Hmmm 22b

Must admit I do like them :oops:

Prymal · Post by **Prymal** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:27 pm

i drive around a 96 legacy Gt when not punting the Group A 205 ..

It was a wreck hen we bought it ( previous driver went thru a fence - DUI) we put new panels on it - repaced a few bent bits from the spares my housemate had - and got it running again ..

everything on it rattles , its kinda " character building " to drive - but yet it refuses to die .. It hauls crap around , gets the groceries , takes the dogs out , you nake it - just a hack ..

It was used as the support vehicle for our targa camapgn this year hauling spares and tools and passengers - Didnt die ..

It in theory shouldnt be driving still - its like that cat with 9 lives ..

Its off to palmy north this weekend for a weekend roadtrip - i expect it to get there and backl without fuss ..

Some seem good - some seem bad - though id still prefer a caldina

johndoe1025 · Post by **johndoe1025** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:52 pm

i dont doubt the performance of them, i just think there is a lot of better cars out there. and theres the fact my turbo starlet seemed to be able to drag off quite a few f them on the street...

they were boy racer ones though, so io doubt they were in very good cond

Emperor · Post by **Emperor** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:10 pm

johndoe1025 wrote:i dont doubt the performance of them, i just think there is a lot of better cars out there. and theres the fact my turbo starlet seemed to be able to drag off quite a few f them on the street... they were boy racer ones though, so io doubt they were in very good cond

Fark they must not know how to drive...

I done a 14.6 in my Forester, mate done a 14.2 in his STOCK standard and another done 13.8 with only exhaust and ecu chip...
Not tryin to start a fight

But my mate got a Starlet too, with GT28RS turbo, front mount, and it cant beat our foresters...

molex · Post by **molex** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:25 am

Your mate with the big turbo Starlet must be the one who can't drive then.. I ran a 14.6 on 5psi of boost while running mine in. Johndoe ran a 15 flat in his standard GT with standard boost/open diff etc. Would think a GT28 is capable of significantly more poke than ours were

(not my intent to make light of foresters, I actually quite like them)

Work colleague has an 02 STI, taken me for a blat a few times.. very impressive car in virtually all respects, has cut some pretty damn good laps around puke/taupo and other than destroying brake pads hasn't had any issues at all. I don't doubt the performance or reliability of the high spec turbo models.

At the other end of the spectrum my grandmother and her partner have owned Legacy's virtually my entire life, the last one was passed onto my cousin at 260k and is still going strong to this day. 2 litre non turbo, no serious mechanical problems other than general maintenance items (brakes/cv's/clutch)

Flatmate has a non turbo Impreza and has had no mechanical issues over the last four years. Nice car to cruise around in.

I think everybody can agree that the key to a reliable subaru is to keep it well serviced. Unfortunately the service history from japan is often a complete unknown.

MNT · Post by **MNT** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:12 am

I smell a lot of ignorance in this thread ..... Smells like jealousy in fact.

Toy-Baru is right on the money with his comments.

As long as you look after the fueling and maintance side of your subaru you will be sweet.

I'm at 173k in my type r and its still running brilliantly, daily driver at this stage as well.

toymato · Post by **toymato** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:26 am

johndoe1025 wrote:my turbo starlet seemed to be able to drag off quite a few f them on the street...

This is a youtube link of Starlet GT Turbo Vs Impreza Type R just for you

johndoe1025 · Post by **johndoe1025** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:19 pm

hahahahhahaha YEA BOIIIII

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:23 pm

MNT wrote:I smell a lot of ignorance in this thread ..... Smells like jealousy in fact.

Actually, there are replies ranging all the way from "great" to "crap" from owners and non owners. I'd actually say that it is a pretty good cross section of replies and experiences shown here, considering it's a forum mostly for Toyota owners. That said, pretty much everyone here owns or has owned a variety of cars.

MNT · Post by **MNT** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:06 pm

Leon wrote:
MNT wrote:I smell a lot of ignorance in this thread ..... Smells like jealousy in fact.

Actually, there are replies ranging all the way from "great" to "crap" from owners and non owners. I'd actually say that it is a pretty good cross section of replies and experiences shown here, considering it's a forum mostly for Toyota owners. That said, pretty much everyone here owns or has owned a variety of cars.

Yes you are right, i was more aiming at the people from the first 2 pages, with the subaru = shite etc comments.

Sure some idiots manage to blow theres up through stupid boost etc, an NA car is more forgiving for these types of morons as you can't increase the power quite as easily ie running a legacy at twice standard boost etc.

But subaru's tend to attract a lot of munters, and hence why there is so many stories of peoples mates mates with blown engines gearboxes etc.

Good to see you have the HCCC link in you sig, i was looking for the site the other day and ended up with some church in howick lol.

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:13 pm

Doesn't matter how fast your starlet is, its still a girls car :lol:

*hides image in sig*

rollaholic · Post by **rollaholic** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:27 pm

most manufacturers tend to attract their fair share of munters, just look at honda

i think alot of the unreliable rep comes from earlier legacys etc which were very accessible to your average moron 3 or 4 years ago, which combined with 10 or 12 years of wear and tear resulted in alot of them being destroyed.

you hardly see them anymore, particularly the RS sedans.

i think alot of their affordability comes from not being over-engineered, so even mild mods can be dangerous to longevity. there are always exceptions, but i still maintain on average that a subaru (turbo or non) costs more to maintain than most other jappas.

johndoe1025 · Post by **johndoe1025** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:51 pm

hahaha bzg bling i got that comment thrown at me so many times in my starlet, aswell as people doing the "peace" sign to me(asian car) most of them shut up when i dropped a gear and left them behind haha

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:49 am

BR0Z wrote:Hmmm 22b

Must admit I do like them

Yep me to I'm not really a subbie fan but I do like the looks of the 22B and if you think starlets are girls cars what about MR2s they are the girls car.... :lol:

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:56 am

My MR2 and I are going to cry into our handbags after that mean comment :wink: