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Postby RedMist » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:21 am

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FXGTV wrote:i can't see any of them helping po-po with an investigation.

A couple of hours in the cells with their new best mate, Bubba the 200kg child molester will soon spur their civic mindedness :lol:

However a more likely situation is that the moron who did it will start bragging about it, and someone will tell the cops :wink:


I'm 6'1", 105kg, well travelled, and the holding cells in CHCH central is one of the scariest places I've ever been to. It's not so much the brick, bars and the perspex. It's the contents.
Enter through the steel sliding door and immediately on the right is a cell with perspex covering the bars (to stop the urine reaching the passers by). There is always someone banging the perspex against the bars, and at least one yelling in one of the cells. Makes one hell of a noise that just bounces from wall to wall, from cell to cell as there is nothing to buffer the sound.
You walk straight into the processing room, more like a hallway, where people are constantly pushing past you, and there in the hallway they strip search you, while you're cuffed to a door.
I would HIGHLY recommend that you are as polite as possible to all the police you meet. Any lip at all and you won't get a cell with only the mildly undesirables in it. Don't kid yourself, there isn't anyone in a cell you would want to meet. Even the people in for minor charges have been in there before, many times, generally on something considerably more "interesting". But there are cells that have people in it that aren't concerned about being there. That you know don't have quarms about fugging you up infront of the cameras, the police. You just need to give them the slightest of reasons.

Thank god I was only dropping off, not in for a stay.

As for the investigation. My bet is they simply troll the forums and find some idiot indicating that he'd been there... something like
[quote=]There were massive skids there last night[/quote]

Then question him.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:28 am

and its surprising/depressing how many of those cell occupants are regulars.....

and yeah, trust me you DO NOT want to be in there
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Postby shihad » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:57 am

my hope is that the council responds banning certain areas from boy racers or perhaps arming the Christchurch police with those cool car disabling guns from the fast and the furious, and not the government. So we will all not be penalized through harsher boy racer type laws.
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Postby Lloyd » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:17 am

lol, gold
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Postby DXROLLA » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:39 am

Instead of stoping them from going to more places why not give them somewhere to go? As this is what this is all over as the council has banned people from parking down certain places. And Mr Parker saying in the local paper that all boy racers are pussys and run away when the cops show up so that night what do they do???? Show the cops that they aint pussys. Well in there eyes anyway. And this will continue to get worse until some one actually wakes up and realises these people are not going to stop so why not try and work with them and maybe build a skid pad or a patch of road where they can go and meet up do some skids or whatever. Sure it wont stop all the idiots still anoying people but the world is never going to be perfect is it.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:42 am

a skid pad will have zero effect on this sort of thing.

these ppl do it to show off, be cool etc
they wont turn up to an organized event.
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Postby MR2SIK » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:43 am

4 and rotor weekends gonna be interesting thats for sure, Im staying away from chch for this one.
There was too many muppets out last year, can only imagine how bad it will be this time round.
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Postby fangsport » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:58 am

MR2SIK wrote:4 and rotor weekends gonna be interesting thats for sure, Im staying away from chch for this one.
There was too many muppets out last year, can only imagine how bad it will be this time round.
unfortunately, 'tis same weekend as Iron Maiden, for once i will be there at the same time.
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Postby DXROLLA » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:59 am

I agree that some people will not go but im sure the majority of people would. I have been cruising around chch for the last couple of years and have noticed that the attitude has got a lot worse against the police and council in no way am i saying that this is the police or councils fault. Im sure they have had a lot of pressure from the general public to do something. But in my eyes what they are doing by banning roads ect to go down and no parking signs has made things worse. So why not give them a stretch of road where its not close to where people live or main centers to do there skids ect. And than if they are still causing trouble elsewhere they can throw the book at them.
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Postby matt dunn » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:06 pm

MR2SIK wrote:4 and rotor weekends gonna be interesting thats for sure, Im staying away from chch for this one.
There was too many muppets out last year, can only imagine how bad it will be this time round.



Was just going to say about that,

it's only a few weeks away, so I can imagine that night being the biggest amount of cars impounded in one night ever.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:07 pm

It was bound to happen....chch "boyracers" have been the most persecuted of anybody, and with the mayor flinging insults and people being into cars basically being told to fcuk off, it was only a matter of time before some of the lesser intelligent people had enough and did something stupid.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:08 pm

DXROLLA wrote:But in my eyes what they are doing by banning roads ect to go down and no parking signs has made things worse. So why not give them a stretch of road where its not close to where people live or main centers to do there skids ect. And than if they are still causing trouble elsewhere they can throw the book at them.


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Postby DXROLLA » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:22 pm

Yes but those laws are making the problem worse not helping the situation. I do agree with everything you are saying but i beleive they need to try to work with them first as in give them a stretch of road, than if that doesnt work do what your saying and throw the book at them. Most of these people are just out for a good time there is always going to be someone to ruin things i dont think anyone can help that. But the way things are going at the moment surely it must be time to try something different not make these young kids into criminals for enjoying themselfs which is all they are doing
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Postby flygt4 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:35 pm

the "give them a stretch of road" theory doesn't work.

if they want to gather with other young people, then why don't they throw a party at their house, instead of ruining suburban streets, which they most likely don't pay rates for to keep maintained.
if they want to race their cars, then fine, there are loads of events around for people to enter in which have the proper safety measures and scrutineering in place to make sure they don't kill themselves or someone else.

they are just a bunch of kids throwing their toys out the cot, and if they break the law they should be punished to the full extent.
they just want to go out and be little shits, and when the pressure comes down on them they come out with silly excuses to try justify their actions.

it comes down to one simple point, don't break the law, or be around when other people are breaking the law and you won't have any problems.
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Postby fivebob » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:35 pm

DXROLLA wrote: give them a stretch of road, than if that doesnt work do what your saying and throw the book at them.

Why reward them for bad behaviour???

Just throw the book at them anyway. Maybe they might learn that they need to police themselves and get rid of the element that causes the majority of the trouble. If they didn't create so much trouble in the first place then the police might turn a blind eye to some of the minor things that are happening.

If a skid pad is what they really want then why don't they organise one for themselves rather than expect it as a reward for causing trouble?

When it all boils down it really a matter of people who are breaking the law. The law is not a stupid one like some I could think of. There's no reason to break it, and there is certainly no reason to expect to be left alone if they do break it.
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Postby Lloyd » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:35 pm

Why is it on the government/council to provide somewhere? They're doing illegal stuff and you want the powers that make/enforce the laws to provide somewhere for them to do it? Think how that would apply to other situations of illegal activity
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Postby flygt4 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:43 pm

Am i the only one who's looking forward to seeing the police response on the news next weekend? :lol:

I'm thinking it'll be a complete roundup in full riot gear and processing of everyone involved to the letter of the law. the CHCH head cop on the news the other night didn't sound particularly thrilled.
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Postby RedMist » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:44 pm

They are not "just enjoying themselves". Look at what happened to the truck driver last year, the police this year. Give them a stretch of road and they won't use it. They will bore of it, it's too far, it's getting too cut up, it's too messy, I can't show off to the general public, I can't disrupt common traffic. There is already organised events that could cater to them if they had the slightest inclination of being responsible. It is simply drunken mob mentality that revolves around distruction of property, both public and private.
If you want to put diesel down on a road PAY for the road to begin with and pay for it's upkeep! Do it 20km out of any township so that you don't disturb others. But wait, that's not the point is it?
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Postby fangsport » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:24 pm

HRT wrote:Why is it on the government/council to provide somewhere? They're doing illegal stuff and you want the powers that make/enforce the laws to provide somewhere for them to do it? Think how that would apply to other situations of illegal activity


i can just see the hippies and stoners demanding a council/govenment funded 'smoking den' if the boy-racers got there 'venue'.
the old saying of ' build it and they will come' dons'nt apply to munters, if it's organised and legal, there is no motivation to be there.
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Postby shihad » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:21 pm

HRT wrote:Why is it on the government/council to provide somewhere? They're doing illegal stuff and you want the powers that make/enforce the laws to provide somewhere for them to do it? Think how that would apply to other situations of illegal


because its the government/council job to deal with these issues. if they provided an area it would be fun and defiantly would be used but the upkeep could be expensive id imagine and wouldn't fix the problem but i think it could help. Providing this facility (abandoned piece of land or whatever) would then make what they were doing legal because its not on the road.



fangsport wrote:i can just see the hippies and stoners demanding a council/govenment funded 'smoking den' if the boy-racers got there 'venue'.
the old saying of ' build it and they will come' dons'nt apply to munters, if it's organised and legal, there is no motivation to be there.



I dont see the hippies stoners asking for a smoking den as regardless if they do it in public or in their little smoking den its still illegal.

i agree with you dxrolla at least if they have a stretch of road or old carpark they have zero excuse if they get caught and cant complain about no where to go, and it would show that the council would be doing something to work with the boy racers. Boy racers are not going anywhere so at least TRY to work with them.
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