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Postby edwagon » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:46 am

Im after an ac/dc tig welder around 200a that'll do odd jobs in alloy and stainless.
Ive had a look around and there are dozens of different tigs on Trademe that'll do ac/dc and some that also do plasma cutting, which sounds good to me!

Has anyone bought or used any of these chinese ones? are they any good? or are they like a kids toy? I was also looking at ezitools.co.nz - anyone know them?
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Postby GTCRSHR » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:02 pm

my old man just got one, inverter type they are all made in china all come out the same factory from what i have noticed, just with a different colour or sticker on it is based on a american designed one

unless you want a italian or american one but be prepared to pay,

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doubt you will need 200amp unless you plan on welding inch thick steel,

we have welded up box section around the 1/4 inch thickness and it was fine,

plasma cutter is the best thing since sliced bread !
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Postby Distrb » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:29 pm

Me and a mate went halves in a 200w Jasic ac/dc inverter with foot pedal. was just over $2k on a field days special from memory. Performs effortlessly on anything we've asked of it (alloy, steel box section, steampipe, all of varying thicknesses) I've yet to try it on stainless though. Can do stick welding as well, which is quite useful at times.

If you're looking at something with plasma, make sure you've got a good compressor that can keep up.
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Postby GTCRSHR » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:22 pm

dont bother with the crap they sell at bunnings either,
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Postby xsspeed » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:24 pm

how much did that one set your dad back, cant see trademe at work
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Postby edwagon » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:40 pm

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Postby GTCRSHR » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:56 pm

$700 or there abouts
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Postby evil_si » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:26 pm

depending on your budget but if you want something decent talk to the guys at weldtech in east tamaki.
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Postby MAGN1T » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:20 pm

Personally I wouldn't bother with anything chineese. It's enevitable that it'll crap out within a couple of years and will be a hassle to get fixed.
I bought a second hand BOC transtig 150 from TM. Still going too. It's only 150 amp but if I'm doing high current stuff it'll trip out the 25A circuit breaker in the fusebox after about 10 min so you wouldn't want anything more powerful for home really.

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Postby rollaholic » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:03 pm

i think secondhand is the way to buy welders if you are after a bargain.

the chinese stuff is kinda like 'consumer disposables' it dies you just buy a new one every two or three years.
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Postby Stu- » Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:00 pm

Lincoln Electric 205a Inverter - awesome!
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Postby sleeektoy » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:34 pm

evil_si wrote:depending on your budget but if you want something decent talk to the guys at weldtech in east tamaki.
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Postby metric » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:16 pm

Agree lincoln 205a are excellent put be prepared to sell a vehicle, however if you aint using it for work you dont need it. Better off with a cheap arse chinese one for home as how often are you actually using it.
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Postby ee904age » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:29 pm

http://www.techweld.co.nz/index.php?pag ... 7d50ac005c

We sell these machines (I dont work for Techweld) through work. We have them in schools, panelbeaters, and mechanical/engineering workshop etc. we have had nothing but great feedback about them. They are chinese, and do look the same as units found on Trademe but are built to AS/NZ standards and have an excellent parts/service backup, which is hard to get on the no-name/ Trademe items.

The only problem we have had with them is the plug on the end of the tig torch on early models was not braced properly, so people would strech the lead out and break the connection. They have since changed to a completely new torch.

It might have more functions than you will need, but you never know when they will come in handy.

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Postby YeMs » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:07 pm

Distrb wrote:Me and a mate went halves in a 200w Jasic ac/dc inverter with foot pedal. was just over $2k on a field days special from memory. Performs effortlessly on anything we've asked of it (alloy, steel box section, steampipe, all of varying thicknesses) I've yet to try it on stainless though. Can do stick welding as well, which is quite useful at times.

If you're looking at something with plasma, make sure you've got a good compressor that can keep up.


i believe i have bought the same unit not long ago through repco branded as a 'jasic'. payed just over 2g also (special trade price but could probly sort something out). awesome machine, does every thing u need. AC/DC 200A tig with foot pedal and stick welding attatchment.

was funny few weeks after i got it, the exact same machine down to all the dials display, identical to mine, turned up in a BOC GAS magazine re-branded lol. the dude i bought mine off sold to me with a 24 month warranty and said he has sold dozens in and around the bay and has never had 1 back. pretty much ideal for doing homers right up to big jobs. a friend borrowed it to build a large alloy platform and it performed excellently.
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Postby edwagon » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:42 pm

Hey thanks for the feedback guys - Ive been looking around and it turns out that theres basically only 2 designs of 200a chinese mig - wsme200 (no plasma) and super 200p (with plasma) - they are built by lots of different factories, some good, others avg, but yea - they're all basically the same machine, with subtly different cases, dial layout, silk screen labelling etc, depending on which western company has ordered them!

Ive done some research and found that they're a great little machine, and you guys have now confirmed that - cheers!!
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Postby YeMs » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:44 pm

on top of that, lol, i was transporting mine on the back of our work ute to my new shed and sum c**t pulled out infront of me. heavy braking + tig on an unstable trolley in the back ( yeh yeh i know dum c*nt, but it started pissing with rain so i had to get it to my shed b4 it got waterlogged) = fall onto deck. and it still works!!! lol, just about crapped myself. i know that repco are supplying the JASIC tig like mine.
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Postby 1e-pwr » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:36 pm

I bought one of these:

http://www.goodsdirect.co.nz/product_in ... cts_id=796

I have been nothing but happy with it, welds ali and steel with ease and for home (or even light workshop use) I reckon it'd go forever. If you buy through a shop thats been around for a while (like goods direct) you will also get good parts support if something does go wrong. I was in the same position as you when shopping for a welder, was sure I was gonna buy a POS that would break in 5 seconds but they really are excellent for what you pay...
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Postby MAGN1T » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:58 pm



Interesting specs.

Rated at 20A.
Comes with 15A plug
Wall sockets are normally 10A I think.

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Postby Mr.Phreak » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:07 am

Which is why a 15A plug won't fit into them
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