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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue May 05, 2009 11:22 pm

check the o rings on the filter housings, theres two and they can leak
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Tue May 05, 2009 11:39 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:check the o rings on the filter housings, theres two and they can leak


will do when I do a change in a few weeks, cheers
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Postby MR2BOY23 » Wed May 06, 2009 8:49 am

rolla_fxgt wrote:I use magnatec in what ever weight (15w-40?) the retail packs are, i'd like to get it in the 10w-40, but i haven't seen it sold in anything less than the huge drums.

I like the fram filters too, i'm running a genuine at the moment, but I seem to have less trouble with the fram's.


Normal magnatec is 10w-40 mate

The one your talking about is magnatec professional which is 10w-30 :D
Magnatec is only semi synthetic- if you really like your engine put in a fully synthetic, theres lots of stuff on the internet about it. Also, fram filters off the shelf suck don't use them, go ryco or oem or if you wanna spend $49 on an oil filter go down to bnt and get the new simota performance filters, theyre magnatised
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Postby Bling » Wed May 06, 2009 5:34 pm

MR2BOY23 wrote:Also, fram filters off the shelf suck don't use them


Why do they suck? Whats wrong with them?

Also, lol @ magnetised filters.... au bro just get a trademe filter magnet and you can reuse it.
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Postby rollaholic » Wed May 06, 2009 7:30 pm

yeah ryco are good / repco branded ones are made by ryco
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed May 06, 2009 7:41 pm

i'v have more issues with ryco than anything else. in fact iv only ever had issues with ryco/gud
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Postby MR2BOY23 » Wed May 06, 2009 9:09 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:
MR2BOY23 wrote:Also, fram filters off the shelf suck don't use them


Why do they suck? Whats wrong with them?

Also, lol @ magnetised filters.... au bro just get a trademe filter magnet and you can reuse it.


My main issue with them is they come in the box unsealed. Seals tend to dry up a lot, and often crack. I still sell them though thats my only issue with them lol
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Postby Rusteee » Wed May 06, 2009 11:32 pm

Yea I'd agree ay, I have seen both Fram and ryco filters apart and compared, there is about twice the bloody filtration in a ryco then that of a Fram filter, I'd never use a Fram again, but thats just my opinion.
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Postby levinguy » Thu May 07, 2009 12:12 am

Mr Revhead, what issues have you had with Ryco? out of curiousty's sake.

im usually a fram man myself with no actual reasoning to back this up. might cut a few filters in half next oil change..
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Postby Bling » Thu May 07, 2009 12:17 am

Rusteee wrote:there is about twice the bloody filtration in a ryco then that of a Fram filter, I'd never use a Fram again, but thats just my opinion.


All that added weight though, surely that slows you down? :lol: :oops:

I don't know the qualities of filtration, but more is not necessarily better. If one material filters better you may need less than a filter with old socks for filters. Can never be sure of anything unless tests have been done. Even then they may be biased :lol: .
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Postby Lloyd » Thu May 07, 2009 1:25 am

MR2BOY23 wrote:Magnatec is only semi synthetic- if you really like your engine put in a fully synthetic,


While people are proving which filter is better, may as well prove why synthetic is better than everything else too

Ryco do have the occasional filter that will leak around the seam. I still use them, no reason not.
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Postby rollaholic » Thu May 07, 2009 7:42 am

yeah now that you mention it i have had one leaking around a seam, had been on the car for a while though.
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Postby sergei » Thu May 07, 2009 8:49 am

Most of aftermarket filters are of questionable origin, questionable quality (never know what is inside), also some might miss valves that are necessary for proper operation.
Why would you put unknown part on one of the most crucial systems in the engine, if you can get the part that has been made exactly engine's manufacturer specs, with a lot of experience and R&D behind them, certainly to have all the right bits inside that would work correctly with the engine.

Filter is not just a dumb filter, it needs to be of certain specification (flow rate, pressure drop) it also needs anti-drain valve that saves the bearings on start up. Also some filters have bypass valve, that bypasses the filter if pressure drop is too great, how would you know that valve is operating properly (it might not open early enough or open too soon thus negating the filter)?

If you look at construction of genuine filter vs any other you will see big difference in quality and extra parts that genuine has.

I would rather pay extra $10 knowing that I have the right part, if you compare how long the filter lasts the price of the filter will not make much difference on total cost of ownership.


Would you put a Chinese knock off parts in your car? If yes, you might just use Ryco/Repco/Fram/Whatever as you are cheap bastard.
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Postby Bazda » Thu May 07, 2009 10:04 am

I've only used Ryco, because its free for me.
I've never had a problem with them, and i've destroyed MANY oil pumps now and none of the metal has gone through the engine!

The oil pump gears on mine have been wearing out, putting metal through the system and sticking the relief valve, pulled the caps off the bearings everytime this happens to check.
So I guess the filteration is very good on them.

I will be changing to a TRD filter as it was cheap. But I havent seen a Ryco one fail yet. Nor has Dad who has been using them for the past 1000 years.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu May 07, 2009 11:40 am

ryco/gud issues i have had:
leaky seams
wrong threads
swarf still on threads!! ie loose metal!
seals not fitting right
anti drain valve failing
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Postby rollaholic » Thu May 07, 2009 1:35 pm

they must save their seconds for you warwick

i must have fitted hundreds of ryco filters, only the one i mentioned earlier been a problem
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Postby Dell'Orto » Thu May 07, 2009 2:06 pm

I must have sold a few thousand Ryco filters by now, and the only issues I've ever had were leaking seams, I've not once ever heard about or seen swarf on the threads!
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu May 07, 2009 2:47 pm

i used to have to clean it off before fitting them to cars
none of those issues i mentioned were one offs.
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