Toyota Hubs

[CelicaGT8]

Ok people, here are some pics of my front hub on the celica, anyone know of any other hubs that will bolt up to the A frame (perhaps with a little mod) that has the arm for the tie rod end lower.. fwd ore rwd.
Or some way to modify the ones i have... any ideas?

I have swaped the hubs around so the arms are at the front.

I know the corona GTR hubs have the tie rod ends join from under the arm but i still need it lower than that.

[sergei]

you realise that by swapping hubs around you will mess up all your caster and other important angles? You will need an extreme adjustment to fix that.

[CelicaGT8]

If someone sugested another hub this may not be a problem tho.
And im not sure how it will effect it atm.... this is where you guys come in

[fangsport]

how about a rwd strut in there?
the ta63 celica struts need seriously long LCAs in anything RWD to correct positve camber, but in your situation, the may just work??

[matt dunn]

Ah, the joys of converting a FWD ( or 4wd in your case ) car to RWD.

I take it you are going to try and mount a steering rack under the engine?

[CelicaGT8]

Ill look into the celica struts you mentiond....

Yea im going to mount the rack somewhere under/ around the engine mounts... where ever i find the room

[fangsport]

just another thought, RWD 70 series supra could be a better option as the stud pattern should be the same

[CelicaGT8]

Ma70 front hubs have double A frames...

Couldnt really use this.

Was thinking about using a subaru legacy one but the lower ball joint is totally different, one ball joint goes up and the other goes down... not sure how to solve this

[Mr Revhead]

bin the whole celica set up
use something from a RWD car including lower suspension arms.
thats your best bet to get a set up that hasnt got crazy angles etc.

i doubt you will find anything that will bolt in and make things fit. and if you do, i doubt it will allow any kind of decent alignment

[fangsport]

bin the whole celica set up
use something from a RWD car including lower suspension arms.
thats your best bet to get a set up that hasnt got crazy angles etc.

i doubt you will find anything that will bolt in and make things fit. and if you do, i doubt it will allow any kind of decent alignment

kinda what i was thinking, but thought 70 supra still used a strut.
grab a whole front end: crossmember, struts, tension rods, steering rack etc

[CelicaGT8]

Does anyone know what Justen used on his gt8?
I no he used a subaru rack, which is what i have, but what hubs did he use? As far as i know he used the same lower arm, and it was still a mc pherson setup

[CelicaGT8]

You can see the problem in this pic. The arm from the hub needs to be about 100mm lower, just above the ball joint. I think the altezza ones come out near there? but they are double A frame.

[fangsport]

so you NEED a rwd crossmember, rack etc.......... seems obvious to me, unless you want to spend days on end designing and building something could have bad geometry.

[CelicaGT8]

so you NEED a rwd crossmember, rack etc.......... seems obvious to me, unless you want to spend days on end designing and building something could have bad geometry.

DONT need a rwd crossmember: what crossmember will bolt up to a 165 celica? NONE

Im making a custom one that supports both the engine and the rack, the subaru rack is almost perfect! The only problem is that i need hubs with a lower arm, this is no cause of the rack,

Theres no reason for this setup to cause bad geometry, the hubs may but not the rack and what mounts it. the struts are leaning in and back, so it may even be ok.

I cant weld another arm to the hub, you just dont do that, can be very dangerious.

Too much leaverage to have a 100mm spacer on the tierod end, think the max is around 30mm, and even thats tons.

[thegreatestben]

What about some MR2 stuff?

[fangsport]

would it not be a whole heap easier to get a whole front end with rack struts etc and KNOW the geometry will work????, then make engine mounts and tie points for the crossmember??

[CelicaGT8]

Mr2 stuff... didnt even consider it, its worth a look tho, but they arnt designed to take that sort of weight, and the rack is behind the struts not infront. so i dont like its chances. look at levinguys 2morro.


I have several front cross members from cars, soarer, supra, celica.
Soarers come with v8 supras standard but due to the position of the engine and strut towers in the celica its totally imposible.
In a case like this those sorts of things have to be custom, the celica has the macpherson setup, which is what i like and is much easy'r keeping. Alot of others have the double A frame setups, which in this case i dont believe them to be worth the conversion if its possible to use something simple.

[CelicaGT8]

Mr2 front hubs are worse, arm is way higher

http://www.mr2.org.nz/front_axle1.jpg

[matt dunn]

dont want to give away any secrets, but try S4/S5 RX7?


You need to keep the relationship and length of the steering arms and the lower control arms the same or else you end up with chronic bump steer.

[Mr Revhead]

you need something like a toyota rwd setup from a cressida etc. say 1980-90
i would look at getting the complete struts, hubs, brakes and lower arms
make them fit your custom subframe.

that way you get a complete setup that will work together

rather than cobbling together some freak show that wil be all over the place