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Postby CelicaGT8 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:54 pm

S13 SR20 Hub with disk and caliper... looks almost perfect


Does anyone have some
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Postby thegreatestben » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:14 am

If you're interested in s13 bits I believe they are the same as A31's
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Postby CelicaGT8 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:19 am

Sweet, thanks, Ceff parts should be easy enough to get. wonder if rbpowa has some i could try...

Perhaps ill go to pikapart 2morro
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Postby RomanV » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:53 am

Mr Revhead wrote:i doubt you will find anything that will bolt in and make things fit.


How many times have I heard that :P

But yeah In my opinion, +1 to just getting a whole crossmember/rack/struts/etc from a RWD car.

Between the likes of 80s rwd celica/carina/corona/cressida/soarer/etc I'm sure you could find something suitable.

P.S. It would be awesome to have the exhaust off each bank coming out of those holes where the steering rack used to go through the chassis :D
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Postby CelicaGT8 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:06 am

Im not counting on getting a subframe to fit, there is very little room. in my opinion its better to keep the struts seperate to the crossmember. sort of hard to explain without people being there.

RWD carina... cant be too many of them around these days.
But ill have a look, see what they have.

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Postby levinguy » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:06 pm

listen to matt dunn, he's done this sorta thing before :wink:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:14 pm

just get roman over to bolt in something
it'll fit right up and be from somethign common and cheap :lol:

roman, change your nick. i think "mr bolt-on" is more fitting
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Postby CelicaGT8 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:59 pm

Levin guy... ga70 supra project? Thats a bit missleading lol

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I need a bigger bottom ball joint but the corona celicas have one so thats an easy fix, and need to do smthing with my top hat, also an easy fix.
The Steering arm lines up great.

Dam pikapart isnt so cheap tho. $50 smthing for a bare hub and shock.I only got one side due to not knowing if it would fit or not.

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Postby RomanV » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:02 pm

Haha, well looks like you've maybe found a solution, but I've concocted a plan B if that doesnt pan out.

Your problem is that the celica has the steering arm cast into the hub, one piece, and you need the steering arm lower down, relative to the centreline of the wheel bearings.

80s RWD struts have the steering arm seperate, the strut sits on top of the steering arm, and the hub bolts to the strut.

So the steering arm is lower down for starters, AND when you use RCAs, it lowers the steering arm even more, relative to the centreline of the wheel bearings/hub.

I'd go have a look at GX71 cressida struts/steering arms, and see if you get lucky and they bolt to your lower control arms.
Work out what length RCAs you'd need to space the steering arm down far enough to work as you need it to, and buy some in that size.

Steering arms are out the back in this instance, but you could possibly run them backwards, but swapped left to right so your ackerman stays about right? (dont quote me on that)

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Postby CelicaGT8 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:33 pm

Such an artist. Im going to print it and put it on my wall.

Yea i had a look at some today, so far the a31 hubs with s13 shocks seem to do the trick. Almost perfect.
But now i need to get another hub and shock... discs and some 4pots. i take it the 4pot nissan brakes bolt up?
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Postby frost » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:00 pm

to use the nissan 4pot you need to use the 5stud hubs from skyline r32
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Postby CelicaGT8 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:11 pm

Iv seen them on 4 stud hubs tho, my mate use to have them... perhaps they work if you redrill the 5stud discs?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:37 pm

maybe a good idea to work out some angles and double check your not going to get some weird angles. just to be safe

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Postby soopachargen » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:46 pm

The good thing about the nissan bits is there are heaps of aftermarket adjustable arms and things available that you could adjust to get the right angles etc.
By the looks of things you're going to want a wider steering rack to tidy up bump steer, i'll leave the specifics to matt dunn tho.
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Postby CelicaGT8 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:11 pm

The steering seems to be fine, turns well, will have a good turning circle, but what angles am i after? have the strut in and back... but to what extent... dont know much about this side of things
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brakes etc etc

Postby RBPOWA » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:55 pm

R32 hubs dont fit btw... The 4 pot brakes bolt up to the hub carriers in the a31 c33 s13 as the hubs are the same , you have to use the 280mm gtst disc's which can be redrilled to 4x114 if you wanted to keep it four stud.

But still even better you can redrill the front hubs to 5x114 using the gtst disc to alingn the holes to save some dollars... just remember to get those two extra wheel studs for both sides if you go down this route lol

only problem i see with that is your going to have two different stud patterns 5x100 and 114.3 unless you get adapter spacers made up for the rear? :D
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Postby sergei » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:08 pm

RomanV wrote: ...
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Postby matt dunn » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:27 pm

CelicaGT8 wrote:The steering seems to be fine, turns well, will have a good turning circle, but what angles am i after? have the strut in and back... but to what extent... dont know much about this side of things



The angle of the steering arm and the angle of the lower arm to the ground.

If they move in different arc's you get weird steering.

So you may set the wheels so that they point straight ahead when the car is sitting still, but under brakes the nose dives and the wheels go into toe in or toe out, and when you accellerate they go the opposite way,

not ideal but you can live with it,

but when you corner and one side goes up and one goes down,
and one wheel toes in and the other toes out.....

all those things make a difference.
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Postby CelicaGT8 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:25 am

Yea thanks Kris, Arnt all the common skylines using that weird suspention? Im using c31 and s13 stuff. I supose the dial up didnt load the pics? So its bolt up, thats great, i need some half decent brakes lol. Subway?


Iv been trying to follow Ackerman's principle
As you can see in the pics, the bottom A frame is straighter than the steering rack arm, so the arc's are a bit different, but still loosely simular. I dont think it would be too much of a problem. Thanks for all your help people.
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