ST165 drive shafts in ST185box!

[hoolio]

I thought you could use ST165 front drive shafts in ST185 gearboxes???!!!
I am putting an ST185 box into an ST165 and only the Left Hand drive shaft (ST165) fits into the ST185 box...!
The Right hand drive shaft (ST165) is too large in diameter, (where the outside seal sits once in the installed position), to fit into the ST185 box.

Has anyone else found this?
I guess I will need a right hand ST185 drive shaft...?!

Can't always believe what you read online then I guess if this is the case.

The ST165 I am working on is one of the early versions 1986.

Any imput welcome.

[strx7]

the RH axle doesn't go into the gearbox, it goes into the transfer box, and from memory the transfer of a ST165 is similar to the transfer found on a RAV4 and AE104 corolla etc. they are quite different to that found in an ST185.

[sergei]

Left fits fine, Right one - I had it machined to right diameter (with groove for O ring and all) for ~$100, don't remember where.
That is to fit ST165 shafts into ST205 Gearbox.

[iOnic]

ADL will be able to modify it to fit

[CelicaGT8]

Um im a little confused then... I put a st165 box into a 185 and everything worked out.... unless i kept the inner cvs in the box and just unbolted the inner cv ... you could do that

[RunningRich]

Been there, done that a decade ago. All GT-Four front drive shafts are interchangeable.

UNLESS you have a pre-88 locking diff GT-Four in which case the inner end of the shaft on the RH shaft is different. You can unbolt it and fit a ST185 one.

The bracket between the transfer and the block is also different pre-88. Otherwise it is a direct swap from memory.

[hoolio]

Yep. Im in the UNLESS bracket. Ive found a 185 drive shaft I can muck with to make it work.
From a quick & rough visual it looks like the 185 box is slightly wider on that side when compared to the 165. So I guess there is a method in the madness that the shafts aren't interchangeable on that side.

[strx7]

UNLESS you have a pre-88 locking diff GT-Four in which case the inner end of the shaft on the RH shaft is different.

And that is the same type of transfer box that the AE104 etc uses, and has a 'diff lock' button on the dash.

[hoolio]

So which plug on the St185 box is associated with engaging the diff lock?
My old 165 box had the pneumatic activated jobba - obviously all this extra crap isn't on the later versions...

[sergei]

So which plug on the St185 box is associated with engaging the diff lock?
My old 165 box had the pneumatic activated jobba - obviously all this extra crap isn't on the later versions...

There is no diff lock on ST185.
It is viscous coupling.

[RBPOWA]

(Um im a little confused then... I put a st165 box into a 185 and everything worked out.... unless i kept the inner cvs in the box and just unbolted the inner cv ... you could do that)

Correction.... four mechanics put the box in lol