WOF/Brakes and the outcome..

[Adydas]

I need some quick advise.. more a confirmation of what i blive to be correct.

Long story as short as possible, the brake hoses on my car caused it to fail a WOF, they were cracked.. still drove fine just untidy and getting un safe.

So today the car had new hoses fitted, was re bled etc etc etc.. and the WOF was issued..

my drive home this evening wasnt so fantastic as the brakes failed and the front right caliper has exploded all the fluid and caused the brakes to well.. not brake.. (funny huh i got pulled over for having a non WOF on Saturday because it was failed on something that turned out to be more safe than after it passed and got a WOF haha.)

My question is, should i be liable to get this fixed or am i right in suspecting this needs to be rectified at the cost of the mechanics i paid, new hoses and labour to do the job? not to mention issue the WOF stating the car is safe as for today's date?

[jakesae101]

something must have been fairly wrong for that to happen i had to replace mine for a wof and my brakes didnt do that

[1hypo3]

What do you mean by exploded?

[flygt4]

mates car did that and caught fire. turns out hydraulic fluid is flammable.

[matt dunn]

I would be ringing them and telling them they need to fix it asap at their cost,
presuming the failure was a part that thay have replaced !!

[Elmo]

The people that changed your hoses are only liable for anything re the hoses. If the caliper 'exploded' then its on you. If the hose/s have bust and caused the issue then they are liable for the costs of replacement hose (they MUST be given the right to repair it) and any other damage its caused (but they will argue this). I dont see how they can possibly be liable for the wof cost though.

[79rolla]

if the bleeder loosend off or the hoes split or perhaps they damaged the caliper it would be on them. if it was a factory defect thats surfaced from use theres not alot you can do about it..

pics would be helpful tho

[sergei]

Probably calliper seal has given up from old age and wear. The hammering it got while bleeding and testing was probably last straw.
Unless they fitted some aftermarket hoses made in dodgy place (China), and those burst.

[thegreatestben]

Where exactly did the fluid come out've the caliper?
From the piston itself or from around the line fitting?

If it was the piston I wouldn't expect the mechanic would be liable
If it popped from around the lines then yeah thats not very good on their behalf, best not jump to conclusions and get a better idea of what exactly went wrong because we can only speculate at this stage

[Adydas]

i cant be 100% sure nor take photos due to light and surface the cars parked on but im extremely confident in saying the leak is from the banjo fitting that the new hose enters the caliper from.

Its certainly an issue that has stemmed from the work that was carried out this afternoon.. the line looks fine and thats supported by the fluid dripping from the banjo..

when i say exploded i mean just that, low pressure braking as i was slowing from 80 to 60 id bled some speed off and started to apply slightly more pressure as the traffic was stopped then almost instantly the peddle hit the floor the brakes locked up and the car pulled left, i came off the brakes and started to lightly re apply and repeat until i came to a total stop.. got around intersection with limited brakes and pulled over.. i accessed here and drove home as i was literally around the corner and could do so safely with use of controlled speed and the handbrake.

beacuse of the pressure the fluid exited its exit point there is fluid sprayed all over the wheel well, inside the wheel all over the calipers so it was very hard to ascertain where exactly the fluid has come from how ever when i pumped the brakes there was a very defiantly constant drip from the banjo part of the new hose entering the caliper.

My question still stands, IF the issue is relative to the brake hose, new banjo or incorrect bleed am i at cost, more importantly i live some 30ks or so away from work and my workshops right next to work, who needs to foot the expense of towing the car to the workshop as its clearly not drivable down the motorway and around Penrose.

[Elmo]

If its any part that they have touched or replaced (lets say it IS the banjo) then they are liable for the repair. If its contaminated the pads, then they should cover that too.

You will have to get the vehicle to them at your own cost.

The reason you had some brakes and a wheel locked up, is because moden cars have diagonal split circuits for this very reason. If one circuit goes, you still have one front, and 1 rear brake operating on each side of the vehicle to try and prevent major pulling (you will always get some pull when this hapens due to one being on a steer axle)

[matt dunn]

It wasn't a braided line that fitted was it?

Never had any of the old style braided line fail,
but the new WOF laws banned the screw on type,
only allowed the new crimp type,

of which we have had 3 fail while building the GT40.

If it's a rubber line, was it one that was made by a brake shop,
or a genuine part?

[Gonad]

Yeah I'd say If it was the banjo fitting, and if that was something that they replaced or fitted then it is up to them to rectify the situation, the car should be put back to the state it was before the brake failed.

If pads wrecked then they should cover those to, for goodwill it would be nice if they picked the car up or fix it at your place aswell.

If I were them I'd be doing what I could to make you happy.

[79rolla]

if it is indeed the banjo could be it wasint tigtend corectly or the brass washers were damaged for some reason.

youl need to take it back anyway, id sujest ringing them and seing what there procedure is, they may offer to pay the expences to get it there or pick it up themselvs depending what they are like. but anyway, ring them and go from there

[escortman]

plus brake fluid is like a paint stripper so check painted arears as well

[Adydas]

small update - car was collected from whenuapai and taken to Penrose at there expense )20 or so k at a guess drive.. (35 min clear run put it that way)..

The hose had failed the hose ended up rubbing on tyre and when brakes were applied the pressure was to much and pop goes the pimple..

All in all im extremely happy with the service, they rectified everything at there cost, tow, new parts, labour and liquids..

They did an ace job on my celica last year so id delt previously with them but wasnt sure where i stood on this curly situation but i would highly recommend them that's for sure..

[Nuty|Mike]

who was it cliff I deal with most workshops in penrose

[Dell'Orto]

Great to hear...whats the name of the business?

[Elmo]

Good to hear

[Gonad]

Great result, most businesses provide good service when they are selling something and want you money, its the great ones that back it up in times like these.