Munch Munch GT3 for lunch?

[ihavelift]

I have never driven a gt3, however i have driven both a 997 turbo and a current model RS4 and I can say that both are truly amazing cars, although I have to say that the turbo actually felt TOO fast for the road, now I know many people would say thats just being a pssuy but honestly for most of us as revhead said we will never own/drive one, having driven one I would say that any m3 or similar car or modern porsche would be absolutly amazing to own even if it was JUST an M3 or JUST a normal Carrera, in saying that tho, I have to agree with some points on here, I would be surprised if an m3 could be made to compete with a gt3 as the porsche is from the outset such a more focused and less compromised car.

* also im sorry if any of that didnt make sence, i just finished my last exam and my brain feels funny

you just finished your last exam? ... well ... $&#$% you then

[dnalunchie]

They got to be kidding, BMW M3 is not in the same league as Porsche GT3.
It will never be. It is a gimmick compare to Porsche.

But end of the Day any Porsche is jsut a suped up VW beatle

I'd have the BMW hand down over the GT3 any day, fr over rr anyday for me

Have you driven an M3 or Porsche?
I have been lucky to drive both E46 M3 and Carrera 4S (yes not GT3).
I would take Carrera over M3 any day.

If you seriously think that modern Porsche is just supped up beetle, you are delusional.

If you think a Porsche is better than a BMW I belive that you are delusional

Apart from there Formula 1 team BMW don't often $&#$% up if theya re building a race prepared vechile so if they say it will be a rival to the Gt3 I would well belive it

I am sure that there will review or comparsion of the 2 on the web shortly, and I hope the BMW hands the VWs its buttocks

End of the day though front engine rwd will always beat a rear engined rwd IMO for sheer drivng fun

So have you driven representation of each? I assume you have driven BMW, if you stand behind them so much.
Or you based your opinions on someone else's?
BMW is average in my personal experience. Better than VW. But still average. Even high end BMW is not exceptionally well built these days.
"A" Porsche always be better than "a" BMW. BMW is mass produced commoner, while Porsche is something very different.

While question being asked about Clarkson & Hammond - they are spoiled brats.

Also worth considering the costs, I mean a m3 costs about 140k ( I believe, and JUST a caerrea costs over 200k, the gt3's go for over 250k, now i dont want to get into an argument over cost vs performance but when we are considering two top marques of europe its worth asking wether a normal m3 is 90% as good as a gt3 (probably) which suggests a stock m3 is pretty good value, however if indeed they are going to make a car that beats or is as good as a gt3, I would want to know two things, how much does it cost, and if its closer to or over 200k, what has bmw done to the car to merit such a price.

Also , eat me ihavelift

[Bling]

BMW is average in my personal experience. Better than VW. But still average. Even high end BMW is not exceptionally well built these days.
"A" Porsche always be better than "a" BMW. BMW is mass produced commoner, while Porsche is something very different.

A cars quality is not determined by how many are produced BMW = mass produced commoner.... hahaha always something to laugh at in your posts I like how you call people with differing opinions delusional, but anyone looking from the outside would probably think another party is delusional.

Not 100% keen on the beemers look, but that would be countered with its pants wetting performance no doubt. So i'm with Revhead, can't afford either but would have both if I had the coin

[rollaholic]

either is way more car than could be used on NZ roads

but i would take the Porsche for what its worth

PS calling a Porsche a jumped up beetle is retarded

[JustinSpiderholden]

They got to be kidding, BMW M3 is not in the same league as Porsche GT3.
It will never be. It is a gimmick compare to Porsche.

But end of the Day any Porsche is jsut a suped up VW beatle

I'd have the BMW hand down over the GT3 any day, fr over rr anyday for me

Have you driven an M3 or Porsche?
I have been lucky to drive both E46 M3 and Carrera 4S (yes not GT3).
I would take Carrera over M3 any day.

If you seriously think that modern Porsche is just supped up beetle, you are delusional.

If you think a Porsche is better than a BMW I belive that you are delusional

Apart from there Formula 1 team BMW don't often $&#$% up if theya re building a race prepared vechile so if they say it will be a rival to the Gt3 I would well belive it

I am sure that there will review or comparsion of the 2 on the web shortly, and I hope the BMW hands the VWs its buttocks

End of the day though front engine rwd will always beat a rear engined rwd IMO for sheer drivng fun

So have you driven representation of each? I assume you have driven BMW, if you stand behind them so much.
Or you based your opinions on someone else's?
BMW is average in my personal experience. Better than VW. But still average. Even high end BMW is not exceptionally well built these days.
"A" Porsche always be better than "a" BMW. BMW is mass produced commoner, while Porsche is something very different.

While question being asked about Clarkson & Hammond - they are spoiled brats.

I have driven an E34 M5 and also a M3 CSL

Both of which I found to be incredible, the noise form the M5's v8 was somthing else and as for the CLS I belive that the owner is still cleaning my sticky mess away after 5 years

IMO the moment Porsche started making cars like Cayman, that horrible 4x4 thing and there new 4 door they also became just anotehr car producer, there is nothing speacil about Porsche

Ferrari and Lambo hav and Aura about them that say im speacil and exotic and I'm worth 200k plus

A Porsche lost that the moment they started making the above cars as pretty much any Tom Dick and Harry can own a Porsche

In saying that since Lambo have jumped in with the VAG group the aura of there products has dissipated IMO

end of the day as they say you can choose your friends but not your family and the porsche as far as im concerned will always be a relative of the beatle

[d1 mule]

that thing is ugly as sin.

while it might be as fast as a gt3 its still not in the same league..

how can ya beet this???


oh and +1 for e30 M3s owning!!!

[Mr Revhead]

how can ya beet this???

possibly with the above M3?

Hell, I like the GT3. a genuine hero car for me
But I also like that M3...
But I detest Beetles!!

911s are related to Beetles about the same that 599s are to this

[d1 mule]

yeah but as i said before, that beemer is ugly as sin. looks like the 6 series coupe things.

i agree that porshes' have lost their aura with all the shit they have been making of late but bmw has never really had an aura to speak of.....

if i had the money (200k) id be getting a diablo or a 355 f1 haha

[shihad]

lol so much bias in this thread i love it, its PASSION

[Adamal]

All you people saying the Porsche is better or the BMW is better are all morons! In the end, they'll probably end up being just the same with trivial differences

[matt dunn]

So price up a Porsche 997 GT3 RSR and see what they're worth, lol.

A quick google and a currency conversion comes out at close to $750K NZD,


that's 3/4 of a Million Dollars, which is cheaper than what I had been told they were.

[B_giB]

At the end of the day, everyone has their own personal opinions, Why cant people accept that?

I like both cars, Not sure which one it would come down to for me, as the M3 is still early days, we dont know exactly how it would perform, as the GT3 has been around for a while now, so we know that it is a well set up car.

You say tomato, I say tomato.

Some need to learn to respect others PERSONAL opinions...

[Leon]

<-- wouldn't kick either the GT3 or that M out of bed

<-- thinks both of them are moon money anyway

[Mr Revhead]

<---- thinks ^ is right!

[S T E A L T H]

+1 to reserving judgement until the GTS is driven.

Comparing this to a E46 is wate of time. simply because (unlike Porsche who have been evolving the same design for decades) - every new product BMW produces is a quantum leap over the previous. Think E90 compared to E46, compared to a E36 before it.

Or how the M5 cars have progressed over the years.

-This has all the signs of being one very exciting piece of kit

[dnalunchie]

+1 to reserving judgement until the GTS is driven.

Comparing this to a E46 is wate of time. simply because (unlike Porsche who have been evolving the same design for decades) - every new product BMW produces is a quantum leap over the previous. Think E90 compared to E46, compared to a E36 before it.

Or how the M5 cars have progressed over the years.

-This has all the signs of being one very exciting piece of kit

this will probably create some debate but I feel that the e90 was a step backwards from the e46, not only in styling but also in drivability and overall perfomance, many motoring journo's agree with that too

[B_giB]

Just remember that this will be far superior than the standard M3.

[Silent Knight]

Porsche is shiite.

Everyone in this thread is wrong.

The end.

[Mr Revhead]

Porsche is shiite.

Everyone in this post is wrong.

The end.

[ihavelift]

this thread is gonna go on and on and on with "porsche is shite" "no bmw is shite" "no your shite" ... how bout we all just agree on this: honda is shite.