The Give way to your right rule about to change?

[fivebob]

So where's the gain from that? How is it "safer"?

What if there's a 3rd car at the intersection, you're driving it and coming from the right of that 4 way intersection, suddenly you have to think: Now I have to give way to him (red car) .... But he has to give way to that guy (green car)..... So if I go I'm ok, but what if he thinks he can beat the green car, he will hit me... arrgh I'm confused

You are confused, because the red car has to give way to everybody that's not turning right, and everyone that's turning right that's on their right, and the green car has to give way to everybody that's not turning. If the car coming from the right is going straight they have right of way, if they're turning right then they still have the right of way over the red car.

[scotty_ish]

Hrmph.



See the bottom one? How often are T intersections like this not governed by a Give Way sign, making it the scenario of new proposed law anyway???

bottom one is never observed. most people dont realise that a T intersection includes coming out of a car park, not all carparks have give way signs, so are an uncontrolled intersection

I think the new law makes sense, although I think changing the law is likely to cause mayhem

[B1NZ]

I feel sorry for the drivers of 1977 now, because if this change takes place its going against everything I have ever learned and practised, I think it might be safer for me to mount the kerb and go around the corner that way

And yes, your right, that T intersection thing is always done wrong by most drivers, and also the carpark bit too, so we are changing the rule to suit idiots that do these things anyway,
Why don't we start driving on the right hand side of the road as well just to spice things up a bit?

[fivebob]

I feel sorry for the drivers of 1977 now, because if this change takes place its going against everything I have ever learned and practised, I think it might be safer for me to mount the kerb and go around the corner that way

It's a lot easier to change than you might think, when I was travelling back and forth to Australia it was easier to adapt to the Australian rules than the NZ rules, either way it wasn't hard.

At least they're not planning on introducing the hook turn

[Bling]

Hrmph.



See the bottom one? How often are T intersections like this not governed by a Give Way sign, making it the scenario of new proposed law anyway???

I drive through one every day on my way to work, hate it as I never know if people are going to give way or not. I always wave to save thanks when they do though, and depending on my nights sleep will wave to those that don't in another manner

[Snaps]

So, if I'm the green car (top intersection), I go first, to get me out of the intersection? Makes sense enough to me...

And for the bottom, I don't give way to the red car because it's easier for me to cross the one lane thatn it is for him to look both ways and cross two (merge into one)?

[matt dunn]

hang on, isnt 99% of crashes caused by speeding motorists?
im sure they just make up the figures to suit their campaign at the time.

That's because 99% of cars that crash have some sort of speed involved,
the other 1% are the parked cars that get run into.

[Bling]

So, if I'm the green car (top intersection), I go first, to get me out of the intersection? Makes sense enough to me...

You don't think the red cars in the intersection? IMO They are going to cause more problems being there longer.

And for the bottom, I don't give way to the red car because it's easier for me to cross the one lane thatn it is for him to look both ways and cross two (merge into one)?

Yeah easier for you for sure. I thought the rule was there to allow the red car a chance of getting out. Often at intersections like that, red car will never get out if they have to give way to everyone

But, whichever way it happens, I hope some people actually follow it Wishful thinking I know!

[Snaps]

You don't think the red cars in the intersection? IMO They are going to cause more problems being there longer.

I meant it would be easier for me to just go around the corner quickly than it would be for the red car to cross a lane of traffic.

Yeah easier for you for sure. I thought the rule was there to allow the red car a chance of getting out. Often at intersections like that, red car will never get out if they have to give way to everyone

Yeah, that's a very good point, not that anyone lets you out anyway, most people seem to use the proposed way anyway, when they're not supposed to.

I guess we'll all just have to be more careful, otherwise I can see a heap more accidents happening. I also think they should paint more give way/stop signs on these sorts of intersections....

[FST4RD]

The top one.... I thought that the road rules should be to get car out of the middle of the road as fast as possible. The car turning left is pulled to the side of the road in a nice safe place, where as the car turning right has cars coming from both directions on both sides of the cars. I feel that turning right should be a priority, especially at busy intersections.
Plus to be honest... I don't think NZ drivers, especially Christchurch drivers would find it hard to adopt!

Plus someone made a good comment that if you have the right away turning left and someone doesn't give way your going to end up with a car in your drivers door....

I could think of other things they could do to the driving rules to make them safer. Things like drivers should not be allowed to smoke, eat, drive with dogs on their laps etc... OMG that last one is the craziest thing I have seen! I have had 2 friends that smoke in their cars, one flicked her fag out the window (should be a jailable offence) and come back in the window and land in the hood of her jacket... almost crashed. Another guy flicked his fag out the window, in the back window and on to the back seat, car burst into flames and burnt out!

[Bling]

Another guy flicked his [person of homosexual orientation] out the window, in the back window and on to the back seat, car burst into flames and burnt out!

Karma works in strange ways sometimes

Though with the censorship in place, it looks like the guy flicked his male partner out the window

[tsoob]

this giveway law is stupid. if im going left, and there is someone going right i give way to them except if someone is travelling straight on the same road as me, i have to check infront of me AND in my mirror to see if its safe.

new way i turn left right turner waits till road is clear and turns, far safer as he just waits, and i dont have to check out 2 different positions on the road.

[Mr Revhead]

But are you not aware of where the car behind you is?
And a check to see where they are, is a fraction of a second glance in the rear view mirror to update yourself, as you should already know if there is a car there or not.
It's called stiuational awareness and it's pretty important when driving.

[tsoob]

But are you not aware of where the car behind you is?
And a check to see where they are, is a fraction of a second glance in the rear view mirror to update yourself, as you should already know if there is a car there or not.
It's called stiuational awareness and it's pretty important when driving.

I am aware, but 90% of the drivers on our roads are mostly thinking about whats on tv 2 night or sending a text messages, so if they change the law to something that is more simple thats better for everyone, wouldnt you agree?

[fivebob]

But are you not aware of where the car behind you is?

It doesn't matter whether you're aware of it or not, if the other driver thinks he has room to turn then you're likely to have an accident because you though he had to give way to the other car.

Far safer if he has to give way to you in the first place.

[MR2SIK]

Rather than making the laws simpler for simple people, should just remove the simple road users from the equation.

[Snaps]

We need to employ some sort of licensing system from germany... Then maybe we could up the speed on the main roads a bit to get everyone everywhere faster.

[crispy'86]

That's another thing, better education for people starting out driving. Practical training for them and other people to demonstrate in a safe enviroment how it's done. Not everyone can look at a picture and think "oh ok that's how it's done in a pic, what if there are other cars there" I think they've changed the rule cause no-one abided by the previous rule. Pulling out of a t intersection and not let the person on the right go. I see examples of this everyday!!! Simple rules for simple people, i reckon there will be more accidents fopr a while till people adapt to that rule. I say ride a bike to work and go along the pavement while this rule gets out of the "honeymoon" period.
Plus i heard it's up for public consultation before they change it?? Or was that just hearsay?

[ChaosAD]

The Melbourne right turn rule is ridiculous.

Two lane intersection, you get into the left lane to turn right, move into the intersection and wait until the lights go red so that you can turn right.

Theres heaps of uncontrolled intersections up north. But no-one knows the rules so you just have to let them go even though you have right of way.

Unless you want to get your car written off for an insurance payout.

[Alex B]

The Melbourne right turn rule is ridiculous.

Two lane intersection, you get into the left lane to turn right, move into the intersection and wait until the lights go red so that you can turn right.

Theres heaps of uncontrolled intersections up north. But no-one knows the rules so you just have to let them go even though you have right of way.

Unless you want to get your car written off for an insurance payout.

But you know why they do the hook turn eh?