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Postby pc » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:33 pm

I would have thought that carjam helped reduce theft not increased it... naive?
I used it 6 months ago and paid the $12 to get all info and it didn't give the address of the current owner... just the suburb.
This allowed me to check all the numbers/WOF dates/etc and be reasonably certain that the car wasn't made up of stolen parts before I bought it.

How would you perform any pre-purchase checks if there is no way of getting any info?
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Postby Bling » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:29 pm

tsoob wrote:i think its a good thing i hate the fact that people can just get someones address in an instant


Do NZ Post no longer provide that info for a few bucks?

Anyway, isn't this all about charging for the information and not actually stopping people having access to it? Dunno, cbf reading the whole article tbh :lol:
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Postby tsoob » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:06 am

BZG|Bling wrote:
tsoob wrote:i think its a good thing i hate the fact that people can just get someones address in an instant


Do NZ Post no longer provide that info for a few bucks?

Anyway, isn't this all about charging for the information and not actually stopping people having access to it? Dunno, cbf reading the whole article tbh :lol:


they may do, does anyone know how i can have those details removed>? I really don't want anyone to know where my car sleeps at night.
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Postby pc » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:19 pm

tsoob wrote:they may do, does anyone know how i can have those details removed>? I really don't want anyone to know where my car sleeps at night.

Just register your car to a different address. I register all my cars to my parent's address.
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Postby fuel » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:23 pm

NZ post stopped giving out your personal info for a registered vehicle earlier in the month.

You can apply to the LTSA/NZTA to have your details hidden. Occasionally you come across a car you would check on Carjam with a message saying you have to put forward a request in writing to have the information. Happened to a few prestige cars I carjam'd.
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Postby Bling » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:52 pm

pc wrote:
tsoob wrote:they may do, does anyone know how i can have those details removed>? I really don't want anyone to know where my car sleeps at night.

Just register your car to a different address. I register all my cars to my parent's address.


This, never had any cars registered to home :lol:
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Postby Mike228 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:13 pm

Pretty sure its the free information they are cutting back on.

I think the main idea with having to pay for the further details (especially online), is there is a paper trail of whos been asking for that information.

If I had a flash car stolen out of my driveway or garage, one of the first things i'd do is try and find out from NZTA or whoever it is who over sees the records if anyone has made a request for my details.
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Postby mtrntr » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:03 am

In a nutshell the NZTA are upset because they need to provide the odometer search under law for free, but provide the extra information for cross checking purposes.

Instead of just doing that though some operators are drawing down more info and using it as a way of selling extra services.

It is somewhat petty, but it does cost the government (us) extra money.


From Autotalk - Autotalk.co.nz

The New Zealand Transport Agency is reviewing the use of some information it provides to second party suppliers of vehicle data following increasing use – not necessarily for the correct purpose.
The review relates to Motor Vehicle Registry odometer searches which provide a history of odometer readings, according to LTNZ spokesperson Andrew Knackstedt.
In addition to this basic odometer information the system also provides the same vehicle detail as one might receive through a current owner inquiry.
There is a charge for the current owner inquiry but there is no charge for the odometer history. The charge of the current owner inquiry is because section 19 of theTransport (Vehicle and Driver Registration and Licensing) Act 1986 requires that a fee is paid for registered owner name and address.
There is no fee specified in legislation for vehicle related information.
“However, high volume users of Motochek have been increasingly using the odometer history inquiry as a means for obtaining vehicle related info,” says Knackstedt. “Because of the
increased volume we have had to increase our IT capacity which comes at a cost.
“We are currently reviewing the information being provided and whether a fee should be charged to recover costs. We have not made a decision as yet.”
Market-leader Motorweb warned of the issue in an email to its customers last week. It notes there will be a limited effect on their service.
In the email it says firms which have been distributing significant amounts of the data were breaching the rules,“Companies who have been using providers of 'free' data are now also finding
themselves in breach of the terms and conditions of these providers, who are providing it at no cost only for "non-
commercial use". Motorweb
business development manager Greg McQuaid acknowledged that the changes to the data was likely due to the abuse by such sites: “Yes, look at what has just happened through irresponsible use.”
CarJam chief executive Paul Osbourne told Autotalk they were not yet aware of the situation and would be discussing it internally.
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Postby sark.inc » Fri May 07, 2010 6:34 pm

tsoob wrote:
BZG|Bling wrote:
tsoob wrote:i think its a good thing i hate the fact that people can just get someones address in an instant


Do NZ Post no longer provide that info for a few bucks?

Anyway, isn't this all about charging for the information and not actually stopping people having access to it? Dunno, cbf reading the whole article tbh :lol:


they may do, does anyone know how i can have those details removed>? I really don't want anyone to know where my car sleeps at night.


would like to know how to do this as well.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri May 07, 2010 7:50 pm

I got an email from carjam the other day saying they were now going to have the stolen flag as free on the website
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Postby Boosted_162 » Fri May 07, 2010 8:00 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:I got an email from carjam the other day saying they were now going to have the stolen flag as free on the website


I got the same email. Only deal is you have to have a login to check the stolen status, however registering is free so no worries there :D
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Postby KwS » Sun May 09, 2010 7:00 pm

Always made me wonder why that info (stolen flag) wasnt already freely and easily available. Its far too easy to buy something that isnt the sellers to sell in the first place, and then be stung with having no car or money when it gets seized.
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