shitty way to lose a young life,

[Al]

Because our government is f'ing retarded and too scared to get into debt to create an infrastructure. Look at America (haha this is going to cause a horrible flame war lol), they're in hell debt, but check out their infrastructure. Their major cities, New York, San Diago (not a wales vag|na) make NZ look so pathetic it's laughable.

But I digress....

You can't compare the US to NZ. The reason they are so badly in debt is because they want to be the worlds police force, over contribute to everything and now, growing the progressive *coughmarxistcough* government day by day, not because they spent on infrastructure.

[Bling]

Lets compare the infrastructure of Gore to Auckland while we're at it. That's about as fair as comparing small NZ to countries 100 times our size

[maddog]

Personally I wonder why we bother worrying about silly young people (myself included) driving performance cars when we face the much more damaging problem that is drink driving... I'm pretty sure that all the others factors in NZ road crashes added together would barely touch what drink driving causes.

Nonetheless, I'm on my restricted license and I'm allowed to drive as fast a car as I can afford with no indication I'm not a fully licensed driver - not to mention our driver graduation system promotes driving like an 80 year old woman to get our license when everyone knows that's nothing to do with our real driving behaviour.

What we need is a proper graduation system that involves REAL driver training and a requirement to display L and R plates. Maybe throw in a power-to-weight ratio on L and Rs to keep young guys from driving cars they have no idea how to deal with when some other guy comes the other way doing the same stupid thing

[Al]

Personally I wonder why we bother worrying about silly young people (myself included) driving performance cars when we face the much more damaging problem that is drink driving... I'm pretty sure that all the others factors in NZ road crashes added together would barely touch what drink driving causes.

+1

[sergei]

Personally I wonder why we bother worrying about silly young people (myself included) driving performance cars when we face the much more damaging problem that is drink driving... I'm pretty sure that all the others factors in NZ road crashes added together would barely touch what drink driving causes.

+1

+1

[S T E A L T H]

Personally I wonder why we bother worrying about silly young people (myself included) driving performance cars when we face the much more damaging problem that is drink driving... I'm pretty sure that all the others factors in NZ road crashes added together would barely touch what drink driving causes.

Not quite. It is a factor that shows up often though.

Here ya go
http://www.transport.govt.nz/research/Documents/alcohol_drugs_2009.pdf

One thing I have noticed though. Drinking & driving has become a lot more socially acceptable in the last 10 years, particularly with young people. One thing you could say for the (now dead) boyracer culture of the early 2000's is that at least they looked down on it, driving pissed was something you just didn't do back then. These days none of them give a f@%k. Hence the major increase in EBA prosecutions despite checkpoint numbers being more or less the same

[Adamal]

I reckon the ones we need to watch out for are the young silly alcoholic drivers on P

[Mr Revhead]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3750372 ... t-vehicles

what kind of parent would let a 15 yr old drive a WRX to school?!

[metal_sean_head]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3750372/Warning-to-parents-over-fast-vehicles

what kind of parent would let a 15 yr old drive a WRX to school?!

BRO!!

What are the parents smoking??
Sure every teenager would love a wrx, but i know that I would kill myself in something that, i know my driving skills aren't upto task yet. I scare myself sometimes in my FXGT.

[1I1]

Sigh, more fuel to the fire.

Considering I'm near that area (well depending on what part of Kairanga-bunnthorpe road they were on) around 5-6 I'm glad I wasn't there/involved

[tsoob]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3750372/Warning-to-parents-over-fast-vehicles

what kind of parent would let a 15 yr old drive a WRX to school?!

i havnt even read the article yet,

BUT this is why i believe restrictions are the way to go. ffs who can honestly say that its a good idea to let young inxeperienced drivers get behing the wheel of these cars.

[Bling]

Ah well, best we can hope for is its f**ked beyond any repair and insurance, not that it would apply anyway in such a fail situation, gives them nothing. 15 lol... tbh they probably are relatively mature.... compared to their parents

[Brick]

twin turbo WRX?

[Bling]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3 ... 50kmh-zone

Another winner.

At one stage the motorcyclist swerved into the other lane while passing a logging truck, causing an oncoming vehicle to take evasive action.

Shame it wasn't a truck or something to mow the guy down

And another
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3 ... er-pyjamas

Both 22, what's with that s**t, need more chlorine!!!!!

Or maybe this one just down the road from me
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3 ... ed-cyclist

It will never stop, ban cars imo.

[duddley]

Damn you can be done for allowing alcohol to be consumed at your premises!. Looks like il be going to jail on this charge!

[pc]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3750372/Warning-to-parents-over-fast-vehicles
what kind of parent would let a 15 yr old drive a WRX to school?!

Looks like the crash was due to driving off the other side of the road, which could have been done in any car... question is would they have been driving like this if the car wasn't "cool"?

[Bling]

More likely to end up off the road if you are inexperienced and driving a car with a lot of power than one with 50hp though

[Adamal]

More likely to end up off the road if you are inexperienced and driving a car with a lot of power than one with 50hp though

Exactly. People who are against power restrictions often say "You can still get yourself killed in a slow car". Yea, sure, but you're more likely to do something to get yourself killed when you're in a car that accerlerates at twice the rate!

Glad mum never let me driver her Porsche when I was growing up

[Mr Revhead]

Glad mum never let me driver her Porsche when I was growing up

But are we.....

[tsoob]

some good news here

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3 ... 01-charged