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Where can i get E85 in Auckland

Postby Titties » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:13 pm

Heya,

I know you can get E85 delivered in 44Gallon drums, but does anyone sell E85 in Auckland?

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Postby Dunny » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:16 pm

Try Alcotane - http://alcotane.co.nz/

They don't show a auckland supplier but could have someone up there
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Postby Titties » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:58 pm

Just called them.

they personally dont have any auckland distributors.
A 200litre drum is approx $600 Inc GST.
$50 to $60 Delivery cost to auckland
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Postby Py7h0n » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:47 pm

Mix your own!!

http://marketingchemicals.co.nz/

They do 200L of 99.8% Pure Ethanol for $475+gst including delivery in Auckland.

I started doing it myself after not being able to find a good supplier. Great thing about these guys is they always have it in stock and deliver same day (great if you leave anything to last minute).

Mixing your own also has other benefits - You control what fuel is used to mix with and you control the ratio's. I use 10% Mobil 98 and 5% F&L 118 octane leaded race gas.
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Postby Titties » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:26 pm

do you need to use special additives for the fuel to "bond" to each other correctly?
Or just measure and poor?
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Postby QikStarlie » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:25 pm

Py7h0n wrote:
Mixing your own also has other benefits - You control what fuel is used to mix with and you control the ratio's. I use 10% Mobil 98 and 5% F&L 118 octane leaded race gas.


ive read in various places lead has adverse effects on ethanol. maybe worth looking into?
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Postby Py7h0n » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:18 pm

It's a very small amount of lead... Meh

Additives - Seems to work fine as is?
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Postby Alcotane » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:11 pm

I hate to put a damper on things but i think this thread may lead some people astray.

1) Any fuel you blend yourself is not permitted for use under MSNZ regulations. This is to ensure that the fuel is consistent and meets the specifications set out by MSNZ, view the Fuel Chart at http://motorsport.org.nz/Pdf/LiveMM34%20Book1%20App2%20SchA2.pdf. Manual 34 Book one schedule one article 3.9 states that E85 must be commercially available fuel purchased in NZ.

2) One of the main reasons for the introduction of E85 is to phase out leaded fuels. Blending ethanol with leaded fuels is definitely not a good idea. Putting aside possible chemical compatibility issues, regulations allow for a maximum of 5mg/l of lead in E85, leaded fuels usually contain up to 850mg/l of lead. Even 5% of a leaded fuel will put you more than 8 times over the allowed amount.

3) Additives are very important. pHe stabilisers control the acid strength of the fuel and therefore the corrosive properties, without this the ethanol can corrode aluminium parts in your engine and fuel system. Lubricity additives protect your fuel system from excessive wear, pumps, injectors and regulators will wear much faster without lubricity additives.

While it may seem that ethanol blended fuels are simply A + B = E85 there is a lot more to it. There are many different grades of ethanol and many different grades of petrol. All petrol at the pump contains additives, some additives are not good to blend together and some blend better with ethanol than others.

It is completely up to the individual what they want to put in their car but it is becoming apparent that MSNZ will harshly enforce fuel use in the upcoming season. Ensure you make an informed decision with your fuel and that you are aware of the consequences of using fuels that do not meet the regs.
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Postby rollaholic » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:22 pm

nice post!

might be worth an FAQ?
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