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Postby ihavelift » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:01 pm

Hey all,

I know there are lots of previous threads on this topic (I have searched it haha) but I wanted to get opinions on my car.

I have 2 options for a new clutch in my st205:

an exedy oem spec, or an exedy sportstuff HD

there's a bit of a difference in price, so I wanted to get educated opinions, seeing as I know about as much about this stuff as Paris Hilton knows about keeping her legs shut.

My car is 4wd, manual, 183kw atw.

Just after your thoughts. Cheers guys
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Postby Quint » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:55 pm

I'd run the standard exedy.

But that's just an opinion, hardly educated ;)
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Postby shihad » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:13 pm

i run the sports hd in my ae85 (justa 4age) and had nothing but good comments very drivable and can slip it a little bit.Definatly getting another one.
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Postby ihavelift » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:33 pm

Quint wrote:I'd run the standard exedy.

But that's just an opinion, hardly educated ;)


if i give it shit would it be able to handle it? 183kw isn't a lot but I don't want to find out it's too much for an oem spec the hard way haha
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Postby Malcolm » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:36 pm

the oem clutches are reasonably hardy, it really comes down to use. If you want to do any racing (especially drags) then get the stronger one, for spirited driving on the road you're unlikely to tax the stock one unless you're a terrible driver and like riding your clutch inappropriately
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Postby ihavelift » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:00 pm

Malcolm wrote:the oem clutches are reasonably hardy, it really comes down to use. If you want to do any racing (especially drags) then get the stronger one, for spirited driving on the road you're unlikely to tax the stock one unless you're a terrible driver and like riding your clutch inappropriately


wasn't planning on any racing, just the odd fang around the waitaks. awesome, cheers for the answer :)
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Postby ned07 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:29 pm

running a sports tuff atm in my trueno, feels real nice :) id say go heavier than lighter , way more fun mate
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Postby ihavelift » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:40 pm

yeah had an HD in it ... and it blew :P. wierdly i was driving it like a nana at the time. oh well.

Ok so next question is does anybody on these forums stock exedy clutch kits for my car and can do me a good deal? If you do or can point me in the right direction that would be awesome.
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Postby Quint » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:20 pm

Sounds like you might have your clutch set up wrong, Make sure its fully engaging and check your pedal stops.

I've gone back to an oem exedy from an uprated clutch. Uprated clutches are easy enough to drive, its the extra pressure it puts on the drive train that ain't so cool. If you need the clamping pressure, sure, uprate, but if not, keep a softer clutch, it'll be easier on your kit.
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Postby frost » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:33 pm

if you drive it like nana then you should buy just a exidy oem replacement cos that's what oem was designed for, HD might glaze over if you drive it soft,
3sgte use a pretty beef clutch and pressure plate stock anyway, 235mm fsp is quite big, same to most light trucks and vans,
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Postby BZG Wagon » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:43 pm

Out of interest; how many kays have you done?

I hear the factory clutches are good for 160+ kays with regular driving.

Wondering when my GTT clutch will go (140kms, still feels alright).
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Postby ihavelift » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:45 pm

Well it pisses me off because I've done about 20k since i bought it, and apparently the clutch was BRAND NEW when i did. So I dunno what the hell is going on. But the AA man reckons a new clutch, so a new clutch it is.

EDIT: here's what happened

was turning out of a side street, really casually. Clutch release bearing had been noisy for a while, didn't think about it really.

all of a sudden clutch wouldn't disengage properly and couldn't change gears (obviously). Clutch started sticking when depressed and had to be manually lifted back up. also there was a strange high pitched almost scraping(ish) noise, which was more and more pronounced when the clutch pedal was depressed. Hydraulics side of things all good, the AA man reckoned the fingers on the pressure plate were bent.

I'm no mechanic, I dunno, I'm just hoping getting the clutch replaced by people who know what they're doing will fix it.
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Postby pureadrenalin » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:07 am

sportstuff HD.
Its not that different to driving on stock stuff when you have a hydrolic system.
I have 215kw at the wheels in my MR2, and it had an exedy (not HD) and it couldn't hold it, and I'm not 4wd.
Was fine in lower gears, but in fourth, above about 4-4.5k rpm, clutch wouldn't hold the power.
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Postby sergei » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:11 am

BZG Wagon wrote:Out of interest; how many kays have you done?

I hear the factory clutches are good for 160+ kays with regular driving.

Wondering when my GTT clutch will go (140kms, still feels alright).


I have done 165kms on my GT4 stock clutch still going strong. Theoretically you can get 200+ even 300 kms out of it if you don't launch/slip.
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Postby Jonno2002 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:15 pm

get your clutch rebuilt by autoclutch, ive had heaps of clutches rebuilt/upgraded and highly recommend them. give neil a ring and tell him what you want and he'll make it for a dam good price.
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Postby Heylin » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:33 pm

I was running 199RWKW on a new Exedy OEM (in MR2). No slipping
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Postby ihavelift » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:41 pm

pureadrenalin wrote:sportstuff HD.
Its not that different to driving on stock stuff when you have a hydrolic system.
I have 215kw at the wheels in my MR2, and it had an exedy (not HD) and it couldn't hold it, and I'm not 4wd.
Was fine in lower gears, but in fourth, above about 4-4.5k rpm, clutch wouldn't hold the power.


that'd be to do with the pressure plate, not the clutch face though, right?
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Postby ihavelift » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:10 pm

well guess it doesn't really matter, just ordered an oem clutch kit.

unfortunately subtech is busy as f**k and probably won't be able to do my car until a couple of weeks from now.

also doing the rear main seal at the same time ... anything else i should look at doing? (cambelt etc all done).
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Postby Heylin » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:15 pm

that'd be to do with the pressure plate, not the clutch face though, right?


Could be the new clutch disc wasnt broken in proper. My old stock clutch with 200,000 kms on it was holding 190RWKW and just starting to slip on take offs and above 5000 rpm.

My new Exedy OEM (with standard pressure plate) was given a break in period of 1000 kms before any hard driving.

If the organic clutch face material isnt preped proper then it can reduce peformance and life span.
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Postby BZG Wagon » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:25 pm

ihavelift wrote:all of a sudden clutch wouldn't disengage properly and couldn't change gears (obviously).


Rev-Change :D.

Hmm I don't know too much about clutches, but I thought a typical worn clutch would be slippage.

Have you checked you have enough clutch fluid? Is the master & slave cylinder still working alright? Could also be a stuffed bearing, worn return spring (unlikely), or bent fingers as mentioned.

The clutch on my mates GT4 started slipping at 160kms, but he had been running 18psi for several years. Turning the boost down fixed his problem.

When my Dad's clutch cyliner went he key-started the car in gear (lights, stop & give way signs), and rev-changed it from glenfield to west harbour - cause towing the car would be too expensive. Legend.
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