slowing down your car using gears V.S using brakes

[FANGIN]

COMPRESSION LOCK - the best thing about MK2 Escorts

ah wasn't your escort a panel van thingy...[/quote]

It was an Estate.. which is a low roof with a hatch, not a high roof with doors, but I fail to see how this has anything to do with compression locking it??

DO NOT TRY THIS IN A FWD, unless you want to crash / fireworks.

[Brawler]

This is engine braking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9gKyyRY ... re=related

[Mr Revhead]

DO NOT TRY THIS IN A FWD, unless you want to crash / fireworks.

Love to see someone try it to set up a scandie in a FWD

[shihad]

It was an Estate.. which is a low roof with a hatch, not a high roof with doors, but I fail to see how this has anything to do with compression locking it??

well when i saw it wasn't exactly a drift car and your reference to the Kaimais just made me think of you compression locking and drifting the kaimais in it.

h8wrxs heres a simple example of compression locking my ae85 if i coast down a hill in nutral (puts the weight up front) and drop the clutch in 2nd gear at 60km it will lock the drive train up (for about a second maybe little more) thats compression locking so if lock up the rear wheels just before i corner i could put my foot down and slide the corner like in the link i posted.

[FANGIN]

Ah, Kaimais reference was in regards to AE111.

That escort would go sideways in 2nd if you valve bounced and dropped the clutch mid corner in the wet... but only just

[shihad]

That escort would go sideways in 2nd if you valve bounced and dropped the clutch mid corner in the wet... but only just

oh man now you have gone burst my bubble i had images of your car linking the whole of the kaimais.

[FANGIN]

The FD will probably do that... If it ever gets tuned that is. It was booked in for Saturday... It's now Thursday & it still hasn't been dyno'd

[RomanV]

DO NOT TRY THIS IN A FWD, unless you want to crash / fireworks.

Love to see someone try it to set up a scandie in a FWD

Scandie is just weight transfer, so would still work?

[FANGIN]

FWD Scandies end in spins or under steer.

[Mr Revhead]

DO NOT TRY THIS IN A FWD, unless you want to crash / fireworks.

Love to see someone try it to set up a scandie in a FWD

Scandie is just weight transfer, so would still work?

Yes but doing it with the front wheels locked up and not steering would be a tad different
Compression lock up is not FWD's freind

[Tagged]

looks like I've started quite a conversation here haha~
the compression lock thingy seems very impressive but since im driving a FD guess I should even think about trying it lol.

break the cycle hahaha

yes haha i should break this bad cycle...although i kinda did "teach" my brother how to drive manual for a little bit...guess I should stop hehehehe~~~

[pc]

Braking while having the car in a suitable gear for the speed you are doing is not engine braking, because the brakes are doing the work.
Slowing down gradually without using brakes while in gear, or limiting your speed while going down hill, while technically is engine braking, I don't view it as such.
To do any real engine braking, you would have to put it into a gear that is too low for the speed that you are doing.

I think engine braking is pointless unless your brakes are not working correctly.

I disagree - for starters you're taking some of the load off the brakes.
As for being pointless - you're not in complete control of the car when you're coasting along in neutral. If something happens (say you lose traction on a corner) there's no way of controling it with the throttle.

Please re-read what I wrote, I don't think you got the difference between having a car in a suitable gear for the speed you are doing vs "engine braking".

[MR2SIK]

slwoing down at the end of the 1/4 mile, was going faster than I thought, put it into 3rd to help slow down, locked up the rears at 120 odd km/h

Paid more attention to slowing down properly after that

[DRFTIN]

yeah scando in fwd is easy, avoid the compression lock though
i took our old GT starlet to a drift day once, worked surprisingly well. and the handbrake didnt even work

compression lock was how i did all my drifting in the old ae86 before i knew what i was doing