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by **trdtrueno** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:29 pm

Hi guys, not a toyota question but a ford one. Car is a 1997 falcon gli, and while trying to swap out the existing stereo that didnt work over to a cd player, the car wont start anymore. anyone have any ideas?? any help greatly appreciated.

by **blindnz** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:42 pm

it didnt have some sort of immobilser stereo system?

by **iOnic** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:20 pm

Check all the fuses under the dash and in the engine bay.

by **trdtrueno** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:33 pm

yea its a security one, which is a pain, but didnt think that this would happen. have heard this happens if the battery is removed aswell. i have a remote for the car but it has a flat battery, so will replace that and see if that helps, if not ill get in touch with the local ford dealer. cheers

by **Stott69** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:33 pm

Can't help myself :oops:

but

by **Adamal** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:59 pm

Thats not a circle.

by **h8wrxs** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:45 am

its close enough to a circle

by **Adamal** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:36 am

I suppose. I like your Levin btw.

by **KinLoud** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:09 pm

When you say it won't start...
Do you mean it won't turn over when you turn the key?
Or
It turns over but engine won't run?

Dumb questions-
- is the battery fully charged?
- is it in park or neutral (presuming it's an auto like my one)
- does it have factory remote to lock car or aftermarket alarm remote?

Dumb answers
- if it won't turn over it might be the factory immobiliser that stops the starter relay working
Or
- neutral start switch for auto
Or
- flat battery

If it turns over but won't run...
- after Market alarm needs deactivating with key
- a fuse has blown
- a ghost has stolen some important part and it will never run again until you call Ghost Busters

Hope this helps

Ken

by **3T-Rona** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:53 pm

When removing the stereo did u position the gear selector at the bottom to make it easier to get the stereo out...... and not put it back into park?

Caldina GT-T · by **snwtoy** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:27 pm

Check the fusible links in the engine bay too, I've blown them replacing stereos in various cars :oops:

by **trdtrueno** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:28 am

haha cheers for the replys guys. Yea engine turns over but doesnt start, and yes the car is in park when i do so.There is a smartlock device that came factory with the car, which i have a remote for although the battery is dead in that remote so ill get a replacement. There is also a dash light with smart lock on which hasnt been flashing or turning on since, so im thinking its one of the fuses in the engine bay. will check that soon as its left at a mates.

by **edwagon** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:36 am

Smartlock can ruin your life

This place used to be quite good for ford info - just gotta learn to read Australian :lol:

http://www.fordmods.com/

by **xsspeed** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:18 am

^ this

smartlock is a pain, being a 97 its either an ef or an el. I didnt have problems when removing the stereo though, this shouldn't be the cause of the issues, unless new stereo is wired incorrectly and somehow is now using wires associated with the locking system.

Mine was an ef auto wagon, had issues with the inhibitor switch (as many do) try start it in neutral rather than park.

by **trdtrueno** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:32 pm

yea its an el. didnt get a chance to install the new head unit in because i tried to start it after i pulled out the old one and cut off the old loom. after it didnt start i wired the old loom and headunit back up and then the stereo wouldnt even power on. might try starting it in neutral when im next at the car. as for the link, ill take a look, but also signed up to another forum to get some info aswell, nothing as of yet tho. cheers for all the help guys.

by **matt dunn** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:00 pm

I do heaps with the smartlock systems, they arew not to bad if youy know how thy work and have all the info on them.

Since it cranks it should not be the smartlock that is killing it,
as the smartlock should also kill the crank signal.

But if you leave the ignition on for 30 mins it wil cycle the doors
unlock -> lock -> unlock
automatically which by-passes the smartlock system until you turn the ign back off for 10 seconds .

Otherwise,
turn the ign on wait 10 seconds,
turn it off for 10 seconds,
Turn it back on again and count the cose flashed out by the smartlock light.

Flashes = Code number
No flashes = No fault.

by **CAMB01** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:01 pm

90's falcon's are really common for the ignitor crapping out on them.
So engine will turn over but wont be getting spark. Gaskin Ford and Mazda down in Wellyz here keep them in stock and sell quite a few of them.

by **trdtrueno** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:04 pm

have checked all the fuses, none of them seem to be blown. not sure it would be the ignitor as i wouldnt think it would just stop randomly after not previously having any starting issues.

by **MAGN1T** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:34 pm

trdtrueno wrote: not sure it would be the ignitor as i wouldnt think it would just stop randomly after not previously having any starting issues.

Igniters do that.They get dry joints in them.

steve

by **trdtrueno** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:05 pm

FIXED!!!!!! one of the connections was loose in behind the fuse box, put it back into place and its algood. not sure how it happened though. Cheers for all the help guys!

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