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by **KIPH8N** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:20 pm

I went to winter drags today in my 4age silvertop levin. Best quarter mile time was 16.7.
Is this normal for a 4age silvertop?
Reaction time was 0.112
Flat shifting and redlining till 3rd gear.

by **ch4ng** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:22 pm

sounds about right if you've got all the interior etc

by **KIPH8N** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:30 pm

ch4ng wrote:sounds about right if you've got all the interior etc

Yeah nothing was stripped out of the car.
Only mods are 9.5mm ignition leads
Irradium spark plugs.
2.5 inch straight through exhaust with 2 resonators.
Running on shell v power.

by **dnalunchie** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:42 pm

Ive seen mid 15

Website · by **Bling** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:28 pm

Around the 16 mark used to be average for a stocker. Practice, practice, practice.

by **deaf_rattle** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:22 pm

friend of mine did a 15.7 in a levin, full interior. stage 1 pod filter and stage 2 exhaust.

he could probably beat rs legacies too

by **KIPH8N** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:46 pm

new_breed wrote:friend of mine did a 15.7 in a levin, full interior. stage 1 pod filter and stage 2 exhaust.

he could probably beat rs legacies too

Oh 15.7 thats quick for a levin.
I was launching at 3000rpms.
My time is pretty slow i guess.

by **h8wrxs** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:13 am

not too bad for a fwd non turbo 1.6litre....

by **KIPH8N** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:29 am

h8wrxs wrote:not too bad for a fwd non turbo 1.6litre....

I guess so wanted to beat my rivals time lol..
b16a integra 16.2.
Guess my rims put on alot of weight.

by **B_giB** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:38 am

15.8 in mine

by **Leon** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:47 am

add in the variables of

What tyres
What suspension
What track
How much power has my engine lost in the last 20 years
What driver

I'd say it sounds like you're within reasonable expectations.

Though, it must be said drag racing a stock 4age is like putting a pig on roller skates and sending it out to play hockey. You could ... but it doesn't make it a great idea :wink:

<-- races a 4age silvertop Corolla and feels your pain.

by **Malcolm** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:53 am

KIPH8N wrote:I went to winter drags today in my 4age silvertop levin. Best quarter mile time was 16.7.
Is this normal for a 4age silvertop?
Reaction time was 0.112
Flat shifting and redlining till 3rd gear.

Reaction time doesn't matter (not part of the 1/4 mile time), and WTF you were flat shifting? As in not lifting off the throttle while you shifted gears? Seems like a lot of abuse to give a car for a 16.7

by **BZG Wagon** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:19 am

Not sure on the HP difference between a silver & a black top; but my completely stock black top AE101 4age did a 16.0 at Meremere.

by **Lith** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:35 pm

Somewhere in the mid/low 16s seems normal for a stockish silvertop 20v, 16.7 indicates either something wrong or more practice needed imho. High 15s for intake and exhaust should be doable with some practice, and gradually quicker as better suspension, weight reduction and ninja driving start coming into it.

To get an idea of the outright potential - Loudtoy on here did 14.7 with all his interior out, exhaust dropped, suspension, intake and exhaust dropped

by **KIPH8N** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:46 pm

I will go again on the 31st again and strip out all the interior and give the car a full service. New spark plugs. Hoping i can do better then 16s.

Third dosnt pull that good i think the afm is playing up.

by **vr4boy** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:11 pm

might have to take my ae101 down and see what it can do if im free then

by **samlloyd** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:02 pm

A little on the slow sound by the sounds.

But if you dont like it, well you own a NA 1.6L...

Website · by **Bling** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:55 pm

Wouldn't bother pulling interior. More important will be tyres and the perfect launch

Work on your skills before you worry about saving 30kg, which is my guess if you were to pull your whole interior out minus drivers seat. Whereas working on your launch and when to change gears will help more. Flat shifting is great if you don't need a gearbox to get home with.

by **molex** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:22 pm

What was your 60'? I was there running mates EP71 Turbo S. We ended up with 13.6 @ 167, car has previously done a 13.22 @ 161. Difference is entirely down to the traction off the line - it was a pretty rubbish track! On a well prepared track (e.g nightwars or one of the competition meets) we would be doing 1.90-2.0 60's all day (power limited). I think sundays best was a 2.28. Looking at the logs he wasn't hitting full throttle until well into 2nd gear which is ~65km/h.

For FWD drag racing .1 off the 60' seems to correspond pretty well to .2 off your ET. If you were doing 2.6's and could get down to a 2.2 on a good track with lower tire pressures/better rubber then your 16.7 transforms into a 15.9 with the same traps.

by **tsoob** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:42 pm

smithers wrote:
But if you dont like it, well you own a NA 1.6L...

I lold

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