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by **iOnic** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:00 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:While there maybe some samness in some angles etc there is bugger all else the same between the 4AGE and BDA.

Yeah aside from bore, stroke, porting, valve sizing, power output and ancillary placements - they have bugger all else in common. But that's a whole other topic on it's own.

by **fivebob** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:44 pm

Having just seen the FT86 at the Melbourne Motorshow, I have to say it's a lot nicer in the flesh than any of the photos show.

I'd almost be tempted to get one if it ever makes it into production.

by **fivebob** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:31 pm

by **rollaholic** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:03 am

side on profile reminds me of a 350Z

would be nice to see the production version having more scope for low offset rims though

by **GTCRSHR** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:32 am

i like !

by **Brawler** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:33 am

Just give it an XX badge, then ill be happy

by **Mr Revhead** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:00 am

fivebob wrote:Having just seen the FT86 at the Melbourne Motorshow, I have to say it's a lot nicer in the flesh than any of the photos show.

I'd almost be tempted to get one if it ever makes it into production.

But now all the barriers and behind the Toyota FT-86 will go on sale early next year

From here: http://carssportscars.com/2012-toyota-c ... ecs-photo/

Although the grammer is a bit dodgy! :lol:

by **gt4dude** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:07 pm

Toyota Celica will be “budget”, and Subaru will receive nearly complete set of premium, all-wheel drive and, accordingly, will be positioned as a more prestigious car.

Booooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!

by **Malcolm** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:04 am

Mr Revhead wrote:
Although the grammer is a bit dodgy!

"grammar"

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:26 am

I *%#@ing knew it didn't look right

by **AE25** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:38 pm

i still don't think this car has anything to do with the 'celica'. someone show me any official statements saying so and i'll stand corrected.
for all the up to date info and details see here
http://www.ft86club.com/
these guys post up everything that happens world wide and have people being invited to official release meetings etc

by **Mr Revhead** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:41 pm

What about its model code. fT86 T for Celica!

by **gt4dude** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:05 am

What, Powered by a 40 year old Land Cruiser motor? Ft86

by **Mr Revhead** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:05 am

Has anyone seen under the bonnet yet? :wink:

by **gt4dude** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:19 am

Hey....

List_of_Subaru_engines#Subaru_FB_engine

This might be starting to make sense

by **thegreatestben** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:28 am

I just got a job working for TMCA here at the head office in Sydney. Hopefully there'll be one of these around work in the near future

by **cogent** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:36 am

nice work boe.
we should get some schooners some time.

by **RedMist** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:38 am

iOnic wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:While there maybe some samness in some angles etc there is bugger all else the same between the 4AGE and BDA.

Yeah aside from bore, stroke, porting, valve sizing, power output and ancillary placements - they have bugger all else in common. But that's a whole other topic on it's own.

Actually, bore, stroke, porting, valve sizing, power output and ancillary placement are all different.

I gather we're talking of the Atlantic spec BDA?
Bore is 80.962 4age is 81mm
Stroke is 77.6 4age is 77mm
cc is 1599 (Atlantic spec) 4age is 1587
Inlet Valve is 31mm 4age is 29.5
Bore spacing is different. None of the manifolds will line up.
Porting was to suit the bigger valves. Other than the general look none of the dimensions match.
Power, BDA was a racing engine of varying sizes and tune. Power output varies accordingly. I'm sure you'll find a spec to match the 4age. However in Atlantic racing the 4age retired the BDA.
Ancillaries, BDA is based on the Cortina block, has the dizzy in the block. 4age, cam driven off the head. Other accessories were mounted either Cortina style or off custom mounts for custom racing applications. Again I'm sure you can find a mount similar to the 4age.

In addition, bore spacing, deck height, rod length, valve angle, almost everything other than general layout is different between the 4age and the BDA.

The issue with the BDA is that it's not a single point of comparison. It's a wildly varying racing engine from 785cc to 2137cc. I'm sure you can find similarites between it and almost any engine of the same basic DOHC layout.

By the way.... FT-86... FUGLY in my books. Still I'm not a fan of most modern styling. 350Z, GTR, RX8, all FUGLY. Give me a Batman or a ST205 anyday.

by **thegreatestben** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:09 am

thegreatestben wrote:I just got a job working for TMCA here at the head office in Sydney. Hopefully there'll be one of these around work in the near future

Well I saw the expected arrival date for australia today. I cannot say though :twisted:

First day was awesome, there's a resource room that has sooo many service manuals, sales brochures, TRD parts catalogues etc. Pron library.

by **AE25** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:28 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:What about its model code. fT86 T for Celica!

lol you got a bite from me. so that means your getting an electric celica that looks like an echo too? most of the latest toyota concepts are also 'FT-##. 'Future Toyota'.
http://www.toyota.com/concept-vehicles/ftev.html

http://toyobaru.net/forums/f9/trademark ... -86-a-344/

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