wheel centre locator modification...can i do it?

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wheel centre locator modification...can i do it?

Postby NOLAW » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:38 pm

iv just bought some new wheels for my car, only issue is the centre locator bore on the rear wheels is smaller than the locator on the hub.

what i want to know is can i bore out the centre locator bore on the wheel to suit the locator on the hub...or is there a way i can get a smaller locator? i presume i cant machine down the locator it self so thats out of the question, let me know what you think guys, iv attached a couple pics

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Postby rollaholic » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:02 pm

slip on spacers to remove the locator on the hub? :P
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Postby Looonie » Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:42 pm

Get rid of the piece of crap Nissan and bolt those awesome wheels onto an awesome car?

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Toyota has 60.1mm hubcentric ring. Strange to find the wheels are to suit that, most of the time they're 67mm hubcentric to suit Nissan/Mitsi etc.

Is there a press in locator ring in the wheels? If so, pop it out and get the correct thickness one (or may not even need one). Otherwise, it would have to go on a lathe to be milled out and then re-balanced.

Maybe take a photo of the back of the wheel rather than the front, so we can see?
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Postby NOLAW » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:57 pm

looonie wrote:Get rid of the piece of crap Nissan and bolt those awesome wheels onto an awesome car?


these are being bolted to a 1973 corolla, i got these off an rx2, what im saying is, is it the best option to machine the bore out, or do you think i should get a new locator ring? its a hilux rearend if that helps

il try get a picture of the back
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Postby rollaholic » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:17 am

is there in fact a ring in the wheel? if so you should be able to get something that will suit what you are up to surely?
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Postby Looonie » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:43 am

Hrrmmm... no shit, go the old skool :)

Ok, onto the second half of what I wrote then...
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Postby NOLAW » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:03 am

il have a look but if theres not, what would be the best option? would it be a good idea to bore it out larger?
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Postby THA SHZ » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:50 pm

yes if not bore it out , any engineer can do that for you , if you are in auckland i can get it done for you 8)
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Postby QikStarlie » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:43 pm

just machine the locator off the axle. don't need the locator for taper wheel nuts. thats how i run my hilux setups
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:28 pm

Find a local machinist to machine out the wheels, don't be a muppet and machine the hubcentric ring off the hubs. Get them machined to a common size and then you can get adaptor rings to use them on other cars.
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Postby Snaps » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:46 pm

QikStarlie wrote:just machine the locator off the axle. don't need the locator for taper wheel nuts. thats how i run my hilux setups


VERY BAD ADVICE.

The locator is so the wheel doesn't put any/much shearing force on the studs. Removing it can cause the car to snap/shear studs, and is most certainly NOT the right way to do this mod
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Postby lowseven » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:50 pm

The locator is so the wheel doesn't put any/much shearing force on the studs. Removing it can cause the car to snap/shear studs, and is most certainly NOT the right way to do this mod


this is what a cert guy would tell you but in real practice most rwd toyotas/cars use rims that dont locate on the hub centre, this doesnt mean there unsafe and certainly wont snap your studs.

studs snapping is generally caused by wheel nuts being left loose. other issues with idiots and studs is just meat heads using rattle guns without torque sticks
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Postby molex » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:52 pm

Shear force is resisted by friction between the mounting surfaces, the wheel studs should never see any load if the wheel nuts are torqued up correctly.

LOTS of people don't run hub centric rings with taper nuts. Very rare to hear of an issue.
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Postby Bling » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:58 pm

I've only had one set of wheels that fit snug to the locating ring, ever. No issues yet.
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Postby pc » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:02 am

molex wrote:Shear force is resisted by friction between the mounting surfaces, the wheel studs should never see any load if the wheel nuts are torqued up correctly.


Correct. I get tired of hearing people say that the locator is necessary.
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Postby QikStarlie » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:33 pm

Snaps wrote:
QikStarlie wrote:just machine the locator off the axle. don't need the locator for taper wheel nuts. thats how i run my hilux setups


VERY BAD ADVICE.

The locator is so the wheel doesn't put any/much shearing force on the studs. Removing it can cause the car to snap/shear studs, and is most certainly NOT the right way to do this mod


on top of what everyone else said. passed cert no worries also.
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Postby THA SHZ » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:10 pm

if the wheel doesnt locate it can cause vibrations , not to mention you shouldnt give bad advice that might cause someone to fail a warrent or possibly damage to their vehicle , just cause you do it in your backyard and nothing has happened to you does not make it right 8O
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Postby ryanfels » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:18 pm

It doesnt make it wrong either
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Postby tsoob » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:16 pm

THA SHZ wrote:if the wheel doesnt locate it can cause vibrations , not to mention you shouldnt give bad advice that might cause someone to fail a warrent or possibly damage to their vehicle , just cause you do it in your backyard and nothing has happened to you does not make it right 8O


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Postby ryanfels » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:48 pm

How is it then that none of my cars have had the mags locate on the spigot yet ive never hard a vibration
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