class A exemption licences no more

[Bling]

As Elmo says, it's all about choices. If you can't afford to run more than one car, don't. Easy peasy. I'll have two cars on the road within a couple years, classic rego ftw they'll probably line that up next in an effort to get older cars off the road

Well by the logic exhibited in this thread, its a car, its driven on the road... so why should it be treated any differently than any other car?? What is special about old classics that justifies cheap rego?

You want a tissue?

[Grrrrrrr!]

I'll take that as meaning that there is no reason it should get cheaper rego and you'll continue to pay full price then?

[Bling]

Take it how you want, I couldn't care less tbh.

Meanwhile, i'll soon enjoy cheaper rego than you

[Elmo]

Well by the logic exhibited in this thread, its a car, its driven on the road... so why should it be treated any differently than any other car?? What is special about old classics that justifies cheap rego?

As Luke said, they generally are expected to do WAY less km's in a year than most general cars, and also I think there is an element of 'if its made it past 40 years and survived then its payed a HUGE wack of reg in its life on the road already so lets give it some discount'

[Elmo]

Take it how you want, I couldn't care less tbh.

Meanwhile, i'll soon enjoy cheaper rego than you

+1 on that. Ive already got 2 on cheap rego, dont worry, Im complained when it went from 80$ a year to 100$, which btw, is cheaper than reg'ing my truck for a 1/4. Again, its MY choice to run a diesel 4x4 around, so I CHOOSE to pay the price.

[101dreamin]

So if class A is being done away with, what does this mean for use of actual agricultural vehicles? Do they go to normal rego now?

Agri vehicles are exempt Class B, not Class A (off the top of my head)

This is correct.

If you are not driving your car, or cannot afford rego (so won't be driving) for at least 3 months, put it on hold. It saves me having to take abuse from butt monkeys who think they shouldn't have to back pay their rego, or shouldn't have to pay whatever is outstanding at the time of cancelling registration. It is called continuous licensing for a reason.

Think about it from this POV. Its less than a dollar a day to drive a normal petrol car, and just under two dollars to drive a large diesel car/ute/van.

Another POV, classic cars, paying full price for 35 years is a lot of money in the long run. Should they not get some kind of benefit for keeping a car that long, and keeping it roadworthy? Obviously it has to be roadworthy (at the time of inspection) to get a WOF, so it can then be registered?

ETA: Driving is a privilege. Not a right. If you want to drive, you pay. Yes it sucks that diesel costs more. But, if you do the numbers, for a hyundai i30 diesel, compared with a toyota camry (non hybrid) same year etc, they cost roughly the same to run once you factor in fuel prices, RUC and rego. The only difference, is diesel looks cheaper, because it is taxed differently.

[wde_bdy]

Another POV, classic cars, paying full price for 35 years is a lot of money in the long run. Should they not get some kind of benefit for keeping a car that long, and keeping it roadworthy? Obviously it has to be roadworthy (at the time of inspection) to get a WOF, so it can then be registered?

Not that I have a problem with classic rego (own and have daily driven a few cars on it over the years) but your reason is complete rubbish. I can import a 40 year old car tomorrow and get cheap rego, having never paid rego in NZ for that car before.
The 40 years is a bit arbitrary but the fact is that 40 year old cars are driven less and impose less costs on ACC, because of that they have a lower component of ACC on the rego bill.

Callum

[101dreamin]

Another POV, classic cars, paying full price for 35 years is a lot of money in the long run. Should they not get some kind of benefit for keeping a car that long, and keeping it roadworthy? Obviously it has to be roadworthy (at the time of inspection) to get a WOF, so it can then be registered?

Not that I have a problem with classic rego (own and have daily driven a few cars on it over the years) but your reason is complete rubbish. I can import a 40 year old car tomorrow and get cheap rego, having never paid rego in NZ for that car before.
The 40 years is a bit arbitrary but the fact is that 40 year old cars are driven less and impose less costs on ACC, because of that they have a lower component of ACC on the rego bill.

Callum

That is also part of the theory. If my reason is complete rubbish, feel free to tell the nzta person who gave me that as one of many reasons to explain to asshats why their mates mustang is a third of the price of his almost as old shitter.

ETA: it's far easier to explain to the majority of people in the area i work (the complainers at least), in that way. You start talking legislation and ACC and levies, and you instantly see their brains shut down and eyes glaze over.

[wde_bdy]

As I just pointed out, the car does not need to have EVER paid rego in NZ to be eligible for cheap rego. It is the AGE of the vehicle not how long it it has been registered here for or even what type of vehicle it is.

Callum

[101dreamin]

There is no requirement for it to have paid rego in this country to qualify for cheaper rego. Where do I say there is?

When you dumb things down to explain to people who don't deal with this stuff day in day out for a living, sometimes you forget who is naive, and who is just trying their luck to get cheap shit.

[THA SHZ]

meh , it just sux for people like myself who use it purely on a racecar , just to drive inbetween stages or on public roads where a rego is required , now i have to pay full price rego for maybe 2 events a year , that sux

[Leon]

Exempt A has been "illegal" for motorsport use for many years anyway though? So theory says, if you were on a rally (or a sprint that has a return tour on an open road), you'd have been failed at scrutineering for at least the last five years (or more).

That and dealer plates have been excluded specifically in the manual for a very long time now (specifically only at events where "Touring" is required as a part of an event).

8. Use of Motorsport Vehicles on Public Roads:
8.1 Registration, Licensing and Warrant of Fitness requirements:
(1) Vehicles used for Events on roads open to the public shall be registered as a motor
vehicle, Dealer [trade] plates and /or “A” or “E” class registration are not acceptable.

http://www.motorsport.org.nz/assets/Mot ... A-2010.pdf
page 33

[THA SHZ]

hmm well what do you know , it hadnt been picked up last time , but that was a couple of years ago , wow that sux , i might have to track dedicate it then

[101dreamin]

if there are 3 months between events, put the rego on hold. costs nothing, and you can register it using an mr27 to your chosen date (within reason) and then put it on hold again.

there are ways to avoid paying a full year on a seldom used car, you just have to search a little.

FYI: i will not advise on how to do it dodgy ways, only legal (not gonna get me in poop ways)

[B1NZ]

Scrap the ACC and RUC content and have a tax on tyres.

Lots of road use = lots of new tyres = lots of tax.

That would suck for us people that use cars for motorsport purposes, I wish you could put vehicle licesnses on hold for 1 month, I generally end up paying full rego for my gravel car, If I put it on hold an event will come up and I will have to back pay anyway, Poor car only got out of the shed about 3 times last year