Respirators

[Lurkin]

Have been doing some fibreglassing recently, which stinks and produces nasty dust. Have been using el cheapo masks which are really not worth the effort.

What I really want is some form of mask that connects to a pipe - and pipe air from outside the garage/ area of sanding and thus flag filtering altogether.

However, forking out $100 - $200 for a full face respirator doesn't really appeal for a hobby. Any ideas of where I can get one of the oxygen masks or similar? any other (preferably cheap) ideas?

[Makaveli]

Try hirequip or someone like that. Maybe they can hire one out.

[Lurkin]

+ tubing from bunnings? problem solved?


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Health-beauty/ ... 386965.htm

[Rick]

I use one of these at work and we deal will or sorts of nasty sh!t, dust, solvents etc.. Use just need the appropriate filter to suit your needs and your away.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Building-renovation/Tools/Power-tools/Other/auction-396906239.htm


Different types of filters

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Health/Safety/Products/Catalog/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LES9MG812H2_nid=8D5S5LZ17HbeF3RH7CD92Ngl

[Dell'Orto]

Used to sell heaps of those 3M masks at Bay Engineers to dudes using them all day every day in fibreglass factories, you know they have to be good.

[tsoob]

yup i have one of those. bloody good

[Bling]

Also use one of those. Have all the filters etc. Go into one of the safety shops (NZsafety for eg) and hope to find someone that knows about them. They will help you pick something to suit the job.

I used the bigger filters that filter out fumes, but if you're only sanding for example it's overkill. I run some pink round filters when doing dusty work. Then just use the fume ones when shock horror, am exposed to fumes. The fume ones have a limited lifetime when exposed to fumes, so when not in use store them in an airtight container. The dust ones don't get affected like that. I have stacks of the fume filters, but they make it too hard for me to breathe with extended use which is why I say use some dust ones when doing dusty work. I use the same mask at work when cutting concrete, does the job.

It's not worth f**king around with shit filters, 3M stuff is all good.

I doubt you'll find any air fed setup that is DIY priced at all.

[Akane]

If you use the 3M one as pictured make sure you get the correct filter, usually they come with the 6001 filter for "organic vapours" and I don't really think it's any good for what you're doing, I've used them enough before but then I'm working with Epoxy, which doesn't really show the effects of Bisphenol A poisoning until you're exposed to that stuff everyday for a few years.

Also used the 6001 filters for Xylene paint thinning, thought I'm "all good" and I got wasted when mixing 2 part epoxy paint, my head was spinning in a very bad way.

Spray painted the bumper with the same type of mask with 6001 filters, not fine enough to filter the paint's mist.

[levinguy]

I use one of these at work and we deal will or sorts of nasty sh!t, dust, solvents etc.. Use just need the appropriate filter to suit your needs and your away.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Building-renovation/Tools/Power-tools/Other/auction-396906239.htm


Different types of filters

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Health/Safety/Products/Catalog/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LES9MG812H2_nid=8D5S5LZ17HbeF3RH7CD92Ngl

seen the same one's used in chemical factory's manufacturing pretty nasty stuff, so they must be good

[Bling]

Spray painted the bumper with the same type of mask with 6001 filters, not fine enough to filter the paint's mist.

Could you smell the paint? If so, how old was the filter?

[Akane]

Spray painted the bumper with the same type of mask with 6001 filters, not fine enough to filter the paint's mist.

Could you smell the paint? If so, how old was the filter?

Yeap I could, filter is about 3 months old, but never used in a spray painting application except this once.

[Bling]

How much use during that 3 months? Stored in airtight container when not it use? Once they are 'used up' they let it all through. Just wondering if it was the filter not working due to is limitations or the fact it was already expired.

[Akane]

On average daily use of 1 to 2 hours. Used maily for grinding wood or taking old paint off wood. Or old boat cloth off. No airtight container.

Yeah they're supposed to be "replaced regularly" according to the instructions, but doesn't have any guidelines as to how often.

[Bling]

There is no way they will last 3 months constant usage. Just an FYI anyway as I would have thought they would filter paint, so just had me puzzled. As soon as you can smell anything through them, it's throw away time.

[Snoozin]

Yup, must ALWAYS be stored in a sealed container. They're a charcoal type filter and are active once subjected to the environment.

Smell means either the filter is past it, or you have not fitted the respirator correctly.

Anyway.

If going with the 3M I'd use a 6000 series half face respirator, with a 6051 filter (organic vapour fine for glues/resin fumes) and add a 5925 prefilter for any dust or particulate.

Other options include the MSA Advantage 420 series (really nice mask and easy to fit) which will be slightly dearer than the 3M, with a 430371 filter and 10011347 prefilter.

I probably deal with more of the 3M masks on a day to day basis.

[Quint]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Building-renovation/Tools/Power-tools/Other/auction-396906239.htm

Used one of these throughout spray painting a car, including the initial stages of sanding bog, paint, primer, etc. They have multiple filters in them.
It's like any tool, you have to use it and maintain it correctly.

Never tasted the paint once. _b would recommend.

[duddley]

Looking at buying a new 6000 series full face mask online and was wondering what the diffrence between the 6800 and the 6900 model is? cheers

[Bling]

Link to them?

[duddley]

I think I solved the mystery. its diffrent model number for each size even though the masks look a little diffrent in the pics

[Snoozin]

Let me know what prices you are looking at online and I may be able to assist