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Postby spoonza6 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:32 am

jus wondering if this gearbox will be fine on this engine driving around until my 7agte comes back from my engine builder

read its more suited to turbo applications
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Postby .:O4AGTZ:. » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:53 am

think its just crap ratios for suited to 4agze
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Postby headshotnz » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:03 pm

But yea, and take some videos so we can see what its like :)
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Postby spoonza6 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:38 pm

Is there any size difference between whatever manual gearbox is attached to a ST 4AGE and E58?
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Postby THA SHZ » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:22 pm

spoonza6 wrote:Is there any size difference between whatever manual gearbox is attached to a ST 4AGE and E58?

yes the e58 is physically bigger , if you want to use it you will need all the shafts and hanger that goes with the e58 8)
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Postby gasman » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:57 pm

and hubs
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:48 pm

gasman wrote:and hubs

Realy? Mine just went straight into my ae111 hubs.
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Postby spoonza6 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:58 pm

It's for my EP82 so just trying to figure things out as I'm not too keen on cutting the rails.

My mate is currently talking with the current owner of CITNLO so hopefully some progress will ensue
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Postby Garreth27 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:07 pm

Should have some photos for you soon, just waiting on them
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Postby gasman » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:10 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:
gasman wrote:and hubs

Realy? Mine just went straight into my ae111 hubs.


maybe its just on the ae92's then? since the ae111 came with the hanger bracket similar to the gze's.
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Postby THA SHZ » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:14 pm

gasman wrote:
TRD_ZERO wrote:
gasman wrote:and hubs

Realy? Mine just went straight into my ae111 hubs.


maybe its just on the ae92's then? since the ae111 came with the hanger bracket similar to the gze's.

mine went straight into ae82 huns , are you sure ?
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Postby tsoob » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:54 pm

mine went straight into the ae92 hubs
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Postby gasman » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:37 pm

maybe its just me then.....
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Postby gleem » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:42 pm

e58 on a na in theory is bad, but how many of you have done it? I did it on a standard black top and it was noticable when taking off, but nothing at all to winge about
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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:49 pm

gleem wrote:e58 on a na in theory is bad, but how many of you have done it? I did it on a standard black top and it was noticable when taking off, but nothing at all to winge about


Well put it this way, rev happy small capacity NA engines go with close ratio gearboxes right? An E58 is the opposite so why do it? Sure, it will work but its a downgrade unless you have the torque to use it.
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Re: E58 on NA 4AGE ST

Postby siren676 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:17 pm

spoonza6 wrote:jus wondering if this gearbox will be fine on this engine driving around until my 7agte comes back from my engine builder

read its more suited to turbo applications

That should provide the extra torque
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Re: E58 on NA 4AGE ST

Postby ~SlideWays~ » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:51 am

siren676 wrote:
spoonza6 wrote:jus wondering if this gearbox will be fine on this engine driving around until my 7agte comes back from my engine builder

read its more suited to turbo applications

That should provide the extra torque


Indeed it would, but his thread specifically asks about using an E58 on an NA 4age. If you add in an extra 200cc's and a turbo then the answer is different.

I've used both the E51 and the E58 (AE101 LSD one) on 4agte's and the gears would simply be too long for an NA 4age.
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Postby iOnic » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:58 am

It will be fine temporarily. If anything it'll motivate you to get the turbo motor done.
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