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by **ALES_AE111** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:50 pm

Also so that they can get away with having a low bonnet but still meeting pedestrian safety regs.

by **Snaps** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:05 pm

Yep, Boxer was used for it's low CoG

TRD catalogue has just been posted... We've had so much information come out about this car over the past week! Pretty much everything that was speculation about the production car has been revealed, etc. Good to see it coming together!

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by **FST4RD** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:07 pm

~SlideWays~ wrote:
FST4RD wrote:Would guess they would be using a Boxer motor due to it producing more torque then a standard 4 banger in the same guise?

Not sure if you mean, are they using a boxer? If so, yes.

I thought it'd be for low centre of gravity from being a flat four.

Yeah I ment I thought the reason for the boxer would be for more torque from a non-turbo motor, not to mention the better center of gravity, handling etc...

Wonder if they will do a 4AGE version? :lol:

by **1I1** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:08 pm

The door stabilizer has me intrigued :lol:

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:20 pm

1I1 wrote:The door stabilizer has me intrigued

Yeah made me go WTF

by **dirty1** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:40 pm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/motor ... ts-concept

THE SUBARU VERSION.
SAME CAR, DIFFERENT BADGE.

by **FST4RD** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:44 pm

The rear end of the FT86/BRZ kinda looks Subaru STI hatchish and the front looks kinda modern Toyota sedanish...
Good to see 2 major jap car companies come together in such a way!

by **Malcolm** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:46 pm

FST4RD wrote:
~SlideWays~ wrote:
FST4RD wrote:Would guess they would be using a Boxer motor due to it producing more torque then a standard 4 banger in the same guise?

Not sure if you mean, are they using a boxer? If so, yes.

I thought it'd be for low centre of gravity from being a flat four.

Yeah I ment I thought the reason for the boxer would be for more torque from a non-turbo motor, not to mention the better center of gravity, handling etc...

Wonder if they will do a 4AGE version?

What makes you think a boxer creates more torque for the same displacement? I would expect no real difference assuming you're comparing the same bore, stroke combustion chamber geometry and head design

Back on topic, I hope I can resist the temptation to get one until theyre a few years old and selling cheaper on the second hand market

by **xsspeed** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:57 pm

^ My bank account tells me I will be able to resist :cry:

by **d1 mule** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:16 pm

FST4RD wrote:Good to see 2 major jap car companies come together in such a way!

hardly coming together when Toyota owns a very large part of Fuji Heavy Industries aka subaru

by **Tha_INS** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:29 pm

has anyone ever driven an n/a boxer subaru?

I used to have one and they are gutless as. Don't know about the new ones but the old ones are pretty down on power. They should have teamed up with honda instead to get the F20C.

Now that would be fun to drive a light weight FR coupe with high revving engine

by **BZG Wagon** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:30 pm

So it sounds like STi will do the all out sports version?

Anyone else think 150ish kw is a little underpowered (fine for a 'base' model, but there should be a 200kw sports version)?
I hope it's not like the T230 celicas (looked great when it came out, but had no go).

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:32 pm

What do you mean no go? You ever driven one?

by **1I1** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:35 pm

Driving bone_on_bikes runX I found it had plenty of go (well compared to a 20v). ZZT230 Celicas also come with the plain jane corolla 1ZZFE which could have explained the blandness of the one you drove.

Plus the FT86 isn't going to be an overly heavy car

Tha_INS: F20C + light weight hardtop coupe = S2000 with a hardtop :wink:

by **FST4RD** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:05 pm

d1 mule wrote:
FST4RD wrote:Good to see 2 major jap car companies come together in such a way!

hardly coming together when Toyota owns a very large part of Fuji Heavy Industries aka subaru

Didn't know that.
Are there any other cars out there that are a combined effort by 2 different car companies?

by **1I1** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:06 pm

Chevrolet Cavalier in the states / Toyota Cavalier in Japan/NZ

by **Grrrrrrr!** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:16 pm

Waws their any actually design effort from toyota in that?

I thought that was one of those you sell our american junk in japan with your badge or uncle sam will smack your ass with more tariffs and shit type deals.

by **1I1** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:17 pm

Pretty much that.

Theres a few Toyota badged Daihatsu's and Hino's. I don't think theres really many joint productions between Toyota and other manufacturers.

by **GTTpower** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:21 pm

Toyota NZ got a launch party in the pipeline Mark?

Website · by **Bling** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:22 pm

Can't wait till they have been out for 5 years.... by that time i'll be able to get one :lol:

So would too!

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