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blacktop vs silvertop throttle bodies

Postby PowderJZX » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:15 pm

Hi guys, i was wondering if black top quad throttle bodies different from the silvertop? not the manifold but the ITBs itself? coz i was planning to combine the two
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Postby RunningRich » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:34 pm

Larger diameter. Google it for details.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:23 pm

Yes quite different.
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Postby QikStarlie » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:28 pm

outlet isnt round. like the st ones. throttle plate: st 43mm bt 45mm

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Postby gleem » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:23 pm

google it
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Postby QikStarlie » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:51 pm

toyspeed tech section: "just google it"?

if you putting bt throttles on a silvertop. they will bolt on, but wont match up as above. would have to do something like this: http://garage4ag.wordpress.com/2011/11/ ... throttles/ or blacktop throttle plate in st throttles, to make it work. but really not worth the effort, not likely to gain anything. if not your plan, as you were...
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Postby RunningRich » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:47 pm

QikStarlie wrote:toyspeed tech section: "just google it"?


Yes, because it is widely known information on the internet. They have been used in hundreds of conversions round the world and the information is definately in the easy to obtain public domain.

In fact if you google "are blacktop throttle bodies different than silvertop?" and choose the first result you get exactly the info provided by others to the OP's question.

We are not here to spoon feed those who do not wish to do their own research.

If it was a question that is not easily answered in the public domain then by all means I would have provided my hard earned knowledge/experience/research.
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Postby KinLoud » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:44 pm

blacktop throttle bodies onto silvertop gear won't give you more power
however - this might not be a reason not to do it.
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:31 pm

RunningRich wrote:
QikStarlie wrote:toyspeed tech section: "just google it"?


Yes, because it is widely known information on the internet. They have been used in hundreds of conversions round the world and the information is definately in the easy to obtain public domain.

In fact if you google "are blacktop throttle bodies different than silvertop?" and choose the first result you get exactly the info provided by others to the OP's question.

We are not here to spoon feed those who do not wish to do their own research.

If it was a question that is not easily answered in the public domain then by all means I would have provided my hard earned knowledge/experience/research.


Then why reply at all?
If its to deter people from asking these questions with easily obtainable answers then you can forget it. There is always going to new toyspeed recruits that have just purchase their first toyota hoping this toyspeed community wont shun them when asking easily obtainable info. This is starting to look like the mmc forums.

Simple to save time wasting your hard earned research/knowledge/experience just dont reply if you dont like it.

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Postby QikStarlie » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:36 pm

^ what he said



could have answered his question 8.7 times rather than this:


RunningRich wrote:
Yes, because it is widely known information on the internet. They have been used in hundreds of conversions round the world and the information is definately in the easy to obtain public domain.

In fact if you google "are blacktop throttle bodies different than silvertop?" and choose the first result you get exactly the info provided by others to the OP's question.

We are not here to spoon feed those who do not wish to do their own research.

If it was a question that is not easily answered in the public domain then by all means I would have provided my hard earned knowledge/experience/research.
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Postby RunningRich » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:33 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:Then why reply at all?


Because within 20 minutes the original poster had an indication that the TB's were different and received guidance on where to find more info. I have looked into this myself when researching my own blacktop TB project and knew that a google search would easily find everything he needed. I didn't have the info on-hand myself but knew where it could be found.

Were you expecting me to google the information for him? :roll:

If I wasn't 100% sure that a google search would find the info I would not have sent him that way

If he was asking a question that I knew the answer wasn't easily googled (difference between ST165 and ST205 flywheel bolts for example) I wouldn't have said "google it".


TRD_ZERO wrote:If its to deter people from asking these questions with easily obtainable answers then you can forget it. There is always going to new toyspeed recruits that have just purchase their first toyota hoping this toyspeed community wont shun them when asking easily obtainable info. This is starting to look like the mmc forums.


I've made no negative comments about the original poster and hope him well with his project. My comments about spoon feeding were not about him in the slightest. I encourage technical queries of all types, but there is also an expectation to use the search function on this forum and google.

I hope the OP posts more info on his project and his findings.

You other guys need to be less precious, otherwise the real world might overwhelm you.
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Postby QikStarlie » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:17 pm

RunningRich wrote:
Were you expecting me to google the information for him?



could have by now? with time left over to find the correct price for scape aluminum ?
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Postby iOnic » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:21 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:This is starting to look like the nzhondas forum.
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Postby Bling » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:33 pm

Go find something better to do you lot. Also,
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Postby Flannelman » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:51 pm

They wont bolt onto a silvertop injection manifold as they have different bolt patterns. And the difference is more than what you can slot the holes
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Postby QikStarlie » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:24 pm

yeh nar bolt pattern same on manifold side. but not airbox side.
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