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by **dnalunchie** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:40 am

I think what we have learned from all the previous comments is that 10k WILL get you a slightly older possibly unreliable 4wd turbo car from the mid 90's or it will get you a late 90's ITR/CTR that while not being as exciting (in some peoples mind, not mine).

Tough choice, I would get the STI or EVO but ONLY if I had money to maintain it.

The ITR will get flogged each and every day and pretty much love it so I think thats the smart option.

by **iOnic** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:43 am

Sorry I didn't realise that the $10k was total budget. Assumed that this was the allowable purchase price for the car :lol:

That certainly changes everything. A [Good] Rollcage and [Good] suspension alone will eat up almost half that before you even look at Brakes/Seats/Harnesses/Wheels/Tyres/Maintenance etc. That doesn't leave much for buying anything worthy of mention. I daresay even a DC2R with brakes/cage/suspension = $10k+

I'd rather get a good DC2R than a cheap Evo/Sti. Some things just aren't worth buying cheaply.

by **strx7** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:20 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:My pick - find a early GC8 body with a blown motor, transplant a GDB motor and box. Win. Find an RA body if possible. Reckon it could be done for near $10k

It'd be VERY close if you could do everything yourself
6 speed box and associated bits for a 6 speed transplant is $3750-4000+ gst
+ complete motor on top of that will be $4K perhaps more.
Even if your brought a rolled GDB from the auctions you'll be paying $6k+ for it.

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:22 pm

Yeah, hence near. Though you could probably pick up a non registered shell for $2k, pick up a rolled GDB and do that. Though again, leaves no money for cage/suspension/tyres.

In summary, get an ITR

by **Alex B** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:20 pm

I may know of a 98 spec ITR about to go on the market for realzies.

by **TRD Man** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:22 pm

was told of an EVO3 rally car the other day for $7K. Got to be cheap motorsport.

by **DXROLLA** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:43 pm

Cheers for all the input gives me alot to think about, my budget of 10k is for the car only not the mods on top, that will be done over time where i feel things need upgrading/get worn out.
Some of those evos above look nice, would love to stretch to an evo 5 which could be posible if i sold my other toy, and which i probably dont need two but have worked so hard on it would be very hard to sell it :cry:

by **iOnic** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:05 pm

Just come to the dark side already :twisted:

srs: Go test driving then decide.

by **jbod** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:43 pm

Hunt around, most subarus that age are pretty trashed would be hard to get a good one. you'll find a good st205 will be just as fast as a sti from around that period; mind you you will also have to hunt out a good st205, ive found some are fast and some are slow..i have had a fair few goes of them and have owned four of them,, thats my 50cents (:

by **dnalunchie** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:09 am

jbod wrote:Hunt around, most subarus that age are pretty trashed would be hard to get a good one. you'll find a good st205 will be just as fast as a sti from around that period; mind you you will also have to hunt out a good st205, ive found some are fast and some are slow..i have had a fair few goes of them and have owned four of them,, thats my 50cents (:

No offence dude but a good sti from the late 90's will be FAR quicker than a good similarly stock st205 on the track, dont get me wrong, I LOVE st205's but they are not in the same league as the evo or sti from the same time period when it comes to track work.

The 205's weigh about 150kg more and make slightly less power

by **iOnic** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:12 am

jbod wrote:you'll find a good st205 will be just as fast as a sti from around that period

In my experience an ST205 is better matched to a normal WRX. The STI is a whole other kettle of fish. Those things are properly quick.

by **Leon** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:07 am

TRD Man wrote:was told of an EVO3 rally car the other day for $7K. Got to be cheap motorsport.

Yup, it's MAD considering you'd be paying $5k or more for a 4k powered Starlet rally car.

Obviously the Starlet is more suitable as a learner rally car, and will get good results in the 0-1300cc class ... but still ...

There are some remarkably good value competition cars out there. Though clearly they would be a bit tragic as a daily driver.

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:11 am

iOnic wrote:
jbod wrote:you'll find a good st205 will be just as fast as a sti from around that period

In my experience an ST205 is better matched to a normal WRX. The STI is a whole other kettle of fish. Those things are properly quick.

Not the 94-96ish ones. Point to point the gt4 easy

by **1I1** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:47 am

What about this? viewtopic.php?t=86916

Sure it's RWD but $5k

by **Leon** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:00 am

didn't the OP say he had a turbo rear drive already?

by **Lith** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:20 am

Mr Revhead wrote:Not the 94-96ish ones. Point to point the gt4 easy

Possibly point to point vs a normal WRX, no chance against an STI imo.

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:26 am

Don't forget the years im talking about. Have driven more than one of each and found the 205s a much better car. Wasn't on track though.
To be honest I found those early stis to be a bit awful
later ones are much much better

by **no_8wire** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:39 am

1I1 wrote:What about this? viewtopic.php?t=86916

Sure it's RWD but $5k

That plus 5k of mods = better than spending 10k on stock car.

by **rollaholic** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:15 am

sounds like all it needs to be 4wd again is some front axles also.

by **Leon** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:26 am

But then it's just a WRX again (it's not an Sti) ... it'd be way more interesting in rear drive format, and chances are you'd get a WRX for cheaper than that anyway albeit not in coupe body shape.

Fun car for $5k though!

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