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Postby Dell'Orto » Thu May 10, 2012 10:23 pm

Peripheral exhaust port wasnt a good idea, MSP seems much better. Just a shame they never made factory turbo ones
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Postby iOnic » Thu May 10, 2012 10:25 pm

d1 mule wrote:fine me another 1.3 liter car that makes over 250hp.......


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Postby jaypines » Thu May 10, 2012 10:28 pm

d1 mule wrote:I fail to see how the rotary is a bad design.

fine me another 1.3 liter car that makes over 250hp.......


more like 2.6L compared to normal 4 stroke engine.... 8O
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Postby iOnic » Thu May 10, 2012 10:29 pm

and 3.9 when calculated based on a Wankel cycle (it is neither a 2 stroke nor a 4 stroke)

Not so impressive now?
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Postby Garreth27 » Thu May 10, 2012 10:33 pm

i hear wankel engine going bap bap bap bap all time, make me feel sad


hahahaha :lol: fully agree, but i just hate rotarys, no reason for hating them but just do.
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Postby matt dunn » Thu May 10, 2012 10:44 pm

d1 mule wrote:I fail to see how the rotary is a bad design.

fine me another 1.3 liter car that makes over 250hp.......


we have a 1.3L engine that makes 380hp at the wheels.........
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Postby bzrspeed » Thu May 10, 2012 11:25 pm

rotary engine is not 1.3l, sorry but its not 4 stroke cycle.

Originally german design, german try and didnt work. So they give to japanese and say 'good luck'.

I dislike the noise, sounds like an untuned weed killer. And need to use as much oil and petrol. So maybe they are responsible for global warming? Ban the wankel to save the whales?

They should have buy alfa, cause like wankel they will break down and leave you on side of road. If break down in alfa people understand and help, but in wakel they laugh at you and throw fruit at you, cause you didnt buy real car....
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Postby Nuty|Mike » Thu May 10, 2012 11:36 pm

if you are a mechanic you should celebrate badly designed and unreliable cars ,you fix them and put money in YOUR pocket I cant see a problem .

Not all mazdas are bad either my 2002 nz new 626 has just clocked 267000 kms and it goes awesome doesnt use a drop of oil but $&#$% me if anyone could find a more boring car to drive !!
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Postby bzrspeed » Thu May 10, 2012 11:40 pm

Nuty|Mike wrote:if you are a mechanic you should celebrate badly designed and unreliable cars ,you fix them and put money in YOUR pocket I cant see a problem .

Not all mazdas are bad either my 2002 nz new 626 has just clocked 267000 kms and it goes awesome doesnt use a drop of oil but $&#$% me if anyone could find a more boring car to drive !!


i dont own company, i work as normal guy. So i dont get much money. Pay in nz low, but better then home.

Maybe make better to drive? I have idea. Go find 4 hot girls to car pool with, problem solved. Be sneeky and turn heater up so they take off clothes. That way make car better.

Or say due to wof testing you must inspect all airbags for correct operation and check the rack to ensure proper operation. Offer an oil change and fiter and ask to plug dignioustic machine in to read codes...
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Postby Nuty|Mike » Fri May 11, 2012 12:00 am

no room for 4 hot girls with wife and daughter in the car ;)
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Postby Bling » Fri May 11, 2012 12:13 am

Not got a boot? :?
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Postby matt dunn » Fri May 11, 2012 12:34 am

BZG|Bling wrote:Not got a boot? :?


For the hot girls or the wife???
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Postby Bling » Fri May 11, 2012 12:40 am

Million dollar question :lol:
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Postby Nuty|Mike » Fri May 11, 2012 12:44 am

it is the lift back so its got a big boot ..............
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Postby tsoob » Fri May 11, 2012 9:35 am

d1 mule wrote:I fail to see how the rotary is a bad design.

fine me another 1.3 liter car that makes over 250hp.......


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Postby TTEETT » Fri May 11, 2012 10:17 am

Dell'Orto wrote:A cars final incarnation is decided by accountants, not designers. So they've never lifted a spanner, let alone had to work on a car :lol:


And the fact they build cars to be thrown away after 5 years, I'm sure the Japanese guy that designed it for the domestic market never imaged it would be worked on in someones garage 20 years later in another country.

..and safety. First time a changed a light build on my car it took two hours, had to remove the front bumper due to its safety before function design, TBH I would rather a 5 star safety rated vehicle than one that is easy to work on.

Working on my race car can have its moments being a newer car but all in all its very easy to do the basics when you have the tools and experience, a workshop manual helps too
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Postby rollaholic » Fri May 11, 2012 10:48 am

rotary engines are cool in their own way, a bit niche, obviously fairly different.

but if they were truly the bees knees they would have replaced piston engines long ago, i think even the most ardent rotor fan knows the reasons why they havent.
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Postby bzrspeed » Fri May 11, 2012 11:07 am

rollaholic wrote:.

but if they were truly the bees knees they would have replaced piston engines long ago, i think even the most ardent rotor fan knows the reasons why they havent.


They cant afford the oil bills? 15w/40 is not cheap and when they use 3L per km
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri May 11, 2012 11:17 am

Rotarys. Lol.


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Postby wde_bdy » Fri May 11, 2012 11:22 am

tsoob wrote:
d1 mule wrote:I fail to see how the rotary is a bad design.

fine me another 1.3 liter car that makes over 250hp.......


QFT.


Find me another 1.3L that can use that much fuel. :lol:
The 1.3L arguement is a crock of shit when you are comparing engines that work on a completely different basis. A rotary for example will have chamber volume of 1.3L at all times yet a piston engine only ever has 1/2 its swept area available as the balance sits outside the combustion process below the pistons.

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