New WOF rules

[CAMB01]

Is it road registered?

Its road registered here yes.

[rollaholic]

i remember seeing an old 928 or something registered here as a 2004 or similar because it had sat in a showroom in japan for donkeys.

more changes to ACC in the works eh! bikes were always gonna be the tip of the iceberg. there will be a few car drivers laughing out the other side in a few years i'd wager

[Leon]

Is it road registered? I don't know the entry requirements so don't know exactly how it would affect them.

You can date Toyota cars from their chassis IIRC, could be the same for others?

Yes Chelles' car is road registered.

Yah, there's processes to deal with such scenarios.

You can indeed date a car from chassis #, however the date shown on your rego label is *usually* (but not always) the date the vehicle was first road registered anywhere in the world.

[Jdawg]

When an import gets first registered here it has to go through a compliance check which is fairly rigorous and any faults or previous accident damage normally gets picked up. Same compliance check for older cars being re-registered. I don't see a problem with the post 2000 date for any car.

[duddley]

It was in the paper a while ago that some car importers would replace stuffed parts on a car with decent ones to gain compliance and then switch the parts back afterwards. I wouldn't rely completly on a car being safe as it had compliance.

[Grrrrrrr!]

Sounds like the only fresh import i've ever bought. Noticed the dud wheel bearing 100m up the road on the first test drive. Bright new VTNZ wof label and all.

[snwtoy]

To me this says it won't change by much at all. From memory they project it will increase they road toll by between 8-12 people over a 10 year period. i.e 0.8 to 1.2 people a year more than could otherwise normally happen.

Oh, well it's nice to know the govt has finally figured out what human life is worth. This sort of shit just makes my blood boil. Why don't they just line up 10 people and shoot them right now and see how their families feel about it? This is exactly my point.

[Grrrrrrr!]

To me this says it won't change by much at all. From memory they project it will increase they road toll by between 8-12 people over a 10 year period. i.e 0.8 to 1.2 people a year more than could otherwise normally happen.

Oh, well it's nice to know the govt has finally figured out what human life is worth. This sort of shit just makes my blood boil. Why don't they just line up 10 people and shoot them right now and see how their families feel about it? This is exactly my point.

We could possibly get that 0.4% down to 0.1% by having monthly inspections and not allowing any modifications at all. And if you really are that worried about the road toll, why aren't you campaigning for mandatory 100kph limiters in all cars? Speed kills dont ya know.

[Grrrrrrr!]

Chelles' Mirage was never registered in Japan. It went straight from the factory into the Mirage cup. Been a racecar all its life.

Chelles car is listed as first registered in Japan, Dec 1996 in the NZTA database (via Carjam). So that problem was probably sorted out when the car was imported.

[~SlideWays~]

Dammit, was hoping that the silly wording on the Stuff article meant I could get away with yearly wofs on my '98 Chaser.

Bah...

[Al]

If anyone is concerned with only having to get yearly WOF's, you can still take it six monthly if you want to. Hell you could take it each week if you were really OCD and paranoid.

[Grrrrrrr!]

I think most people on here are more worried about the other idiots on the road that wouldn't know a balljoint from an oil filter.

[Makaveli]

Most car dealers are dodgy as. The compliance & WOF places work with dealers and are corrupt. I bought a Celsior from a car dealer. It passed compliance & had a fresh WOF. But I did a pre-purchase inspection on it by Toyota mechanics.

It had leaky power steering, very badly worn front tyres on the inside. Cracks on rubber brake hoses. Worn out rubber donut on the driveshaft coupling.

I would only trust an experienced mechanic to do a WOF on my car & it also helps if someone that is familiar with your make/model to know what to look out for.

[rolla_fxgt]

To me this says it won't change by much at all. From memory they project it will increase they road toll by between 8-12 people over a 10 year period. i.e 0.8 to 1.2 people a year more than could otherwise normally happen.

Oh, well it's nice to know the govt has finally figured out what human life is worth. This sort of shit just makes my blood boil. Why don't they just line up 10 people and shoot them right now and see how their families feel about it? This is exactly my point.

If you don't like it don't drive then. After all driving is hazardous anyway excluding the WOF argument.

While your at it if you want to remove risk from your life I suggest not eating, as something like 30 people die from food related illnesses or injuries in NZ each year.
Hundreads of people are seriously hurt each year in burns from hot water, so probably best not to shower either.
10 people die each year from insect or animal bites, so probably shouldn't go outside either.

See there's plenty of things that the government allows us to do that involve risk, but its all about risk vs reward and cost of policing the regulations. In this case experts, not the MTA, or the general public, or greg murphy, or some random chosen off the street have decided that the cost of going from 6 monthly-yearly WOF's is less than the cost of maintaining the satus quo. Which as we all know is the most regular testing of vehicles in the world. But hey if you think you know better than experts, congratulations, a gold star for you.

From memory last time I checked the NZTA had decided a life was worth roughly 1.3 million dollars. Which is the figure they use in cost benefit analysis for things like safety changes to roads.

[jacobrjett]

Most car dealers are dodgy as. The compliance & WOF places work with dealers and are corrupt. I bought a Celsior from a car dealer. It passed compliance & had a fresh WOF. But I did a pre-purchase inspection on it by Toyota mechanics.

It had leaky power steering, very badly worn front tyres on the inside. Cracks on rubber brake hoses. Worn out rubber donut on the driveshaft coupling.

I would only trust an experienced mechanic to do a WOF on my car & it also helps if someone that is familiar with your make/model to know what to look out for.

have to agree with you on this.

my mate went and looked at a prelude from a car dealership. it had a pre-purchase inspection report that said it was mint from a shop down the road. my mate said im going to take it for another inspection anyway and the guys said "ok we will book you in down the road" and my mate said no thanks im getting an AA inspection done. They said it will be free of charge if you get it down the road. my mate thought this was a bit strange so proceeded to take it for a proper AA inspection.

had a ton of structural rust, amongst numerous other things wrong with it. my mate bought the car back and showed the mechanic and they said oh we will drop the price 500 for you then. (from 4000 to 3500) my mate pretty much told them to get $&#$% and left.

car ended up on trademe a few days later at 4500.

[jacobrjett]

with a pre-purchase inspection report claiming it was mint

[ee904age]

Sounds like our Atenza. Got a VTNZ pre-purchase inspection, that said the car was basically mint except a broken ratchet system on the brake master cylinder cap. From day one it had a strange knock through the steering which turned out to be a completely rooted lower control arm bush, and 3 weeks after collecting it, the front pads were steel on steel, with a caliper that had seized and rusted solid.

As far as dodgy dealers go, I fully agree. I once worked for a car yard that had a workshop, a brand new car (sat on the yard for 2-3 years before being sold/registered fail it's first WOF on surface rust on chassis rails. A bit of underseal and matte black by the boss and it's gone.

Also issuing WOF's to company cars without any inspection. I don't know how they sold anything when people saw that the WOF had been issued by the same company selling the car!

[iOnic]

Gist of thread in my eyes = Current WOF system is so flawed that it really doesn't make a whole hell of a difference whether cars are inspected daily or not at all.

[CAMB01]

I'm more concerned about the job losses. Small garages that rely on WOF's as their bread and butter could go under.

[Dell'Orto]

Nah, the cost of WOF's will rise to cover it. It'll have to anyway, they'll have to be so much more thorough. I think minimum tread depth on tyres will increase too