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Postby Lith » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:07 am

1I1 wrote:Good to see a Toyota turn up and take the highest output at a Honda dyno day too Reith! :lol:


We were discussing doing a high boost run on the Silvia, it may have made the top figure of the day thing a bit more of a competitive thing (was expecting 250-260kw on track boost, 275-285kw on hero boost). As it went, was nice to run it up on the "track hammering" boost level and confirm it was all nice, safe smooth and consistent and it made for a happy result - and a Honda was SUPPOSED to be the most powerful but the one in question popped an oil pump two days before the dyno day so it's only fitting that a Toyota be allowed to have a moment in the sun ;)
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Postby Mr Ree » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:16 pm

The numbers mean nothing to me, but ill still take a bow, good sir ;)

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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:53 pm

Mr Ree wrote:skimmed flanges


Heh heh heh.

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Postby Mr Ree » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:15 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:
Mr Ree wrote:skimmed flanges


Hehehe

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Postby phoenix » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:21 pm

Lith wrote:
1I1 wrote:Good to see a Toyota turn up and take the highest output at a Honda dyno day too Reith! :lol:


We were discussing doing a high boost run on the Silvia, it may have made the top figure of the day thing a bit more of a competitive thing (was expecting 250-260kw on track boost, 275-285kw on hero boost). As it went, was nice to run it up on the "track hammering" boost level and confirm it was all nice, safe smooth and consistent and it made for a happy result - and a Honda was SUPPOSED to be the most powerful but the one in question popped an oil pump two days before the dyno day so it's only fitting that a Toyota be allowed to have a moment in the sun ;)


Coulda, shoulda, woulda... didn't :)
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Postby Lith » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:44 pm

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Lith wrote:As it went, was nice to run it up on the "track hammering" boost level and confirm it was all nice, safe smooth and consistent and it made for a happy result


Coulda, shoulda, woulda... didn't :)


No... actually coulda and did exactly as shoulda. If we had really wanted to we would have run it on more boost but it would have been more other peoples benefits than those hoping to confirm the car is all ready for some track action, being more track car than dyno queen the outcome was a great success!

There isn't a lot of concern about the power the thing can make, we already know it's fast where it counts :)
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Postby 1I1 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:28 pm

Yeah Adrian's 200SX with 255kw looks to be quick enough - 1min 17sec at Manfeild with next to no chassis development just some D2 coilovers and old slicks effectively.
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Postby Lith » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:42 pm

1I1 wrote:Yeah Adrian's 200SX with 255kw looks to be quick enough - 1min 17sec at Manfeild with next to no chassis development just some D2 coilovers and old slicks effectively.


Even then that was with a smaller turbo and no dyno tune, too :D

Looking forward to seeing how it goes at R&T at Manfeild in September with the new diff, tune etc :)
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Postby jacobrjett » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:46 pm

changed spark plugs, oil, oil filter, fuel filter and coolant on the daily

is $130 for a set of new spark leads normal !? :?

politely declined the man at repco on that price...
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Postby touge rolla » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:50 pm

that's not too bad a price really, but you can get TGP ones from Mark for $135 which will be far superior to the crappy repco champions
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Postby Al » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:52 pm

jacobrjett wrote:changed spark plugs, oil, oil filter, fuel filter and coolant on the daily

is $130 for a set of new spark leads normal !? :?

politely declined the man at repco on that price...


Can you make them cheaper?
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Postby Bling » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:11 pm

Unless you're having issues, why bother on the cheap daily? Buy some new ones for the turbo car :wink:
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Postby Mr Ree » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:49 pm

Lith wrote:
1I1 wrote:Yeah Adrian's 200SX with 255kw looks to be quick enough - 1min 17sec at Manfeild with next to no chassis development just some D2 coilovers and old slicks effectively.


Even then that was with a smaller turbo and no dyno tune, too :D

Looking forward to seeing how it goes at R&T at Manfeild in September with the new diff, tune etc :)


I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest to see 1.14s out of it very soon, if not on the first time back out there lol. Power is far from everything on a track car.

Its such good value for money in all areas :)
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Postby jacobrjett » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:55 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:Unless you're having issues, why bother on the cheap daily? Buy some new ones for the turbo car :wink:


for some reason i imagined them being more like 10 bucks each.

which is why i thought i might do them for sakes sake, but at that price, pft.
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Postby Lloyd » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:57 pm

Quite reasonable price really. Get the generic ones from Repco etc for $10-15 each, but they're not really suited to most cars. Generally for the older stuff where anything remotely close to the right length that doesn't fall off will do.
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Postby Lith » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:59 am

Mr Ree wrote:I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest to see 1.14s out of it very soon, if not on the first time back out there lol. Power is far from everything on a track car.

Its such good value for money in all areas :)


I am pretty sure 1:14s will be in it's future, but I don't know about that soon - there have been chassis improvements since last time but it still has the D2s and old tyres, the brakes will be not stuffed like last time which is an improvement but it really needs something better for the momentum it carries so I'd be really impressed if he goes a lot quicker than he already has at this stage.

In regards to power, definitely - all decisions in parts selection and tuning were to do with blurring the boundaries between the "fast", "cheap" and "reliable" options, no big cams, no large turbos or other high rpm things, moderate boost levels, a lot of time was spent on getting the tune sorted it was largely spent on getting making "power" available predictably, easily and reliably (not to mention making it do that on any ethanol blend that happens to be in the tank at the time, lol). The dyno plot just represents the uppermost load points it happens to progress through, which is just a small part of that engine setup & tune's overall performance

He's definitely built a cost effective potent machine so far, it certainly helps that it turns out to not be overly hard to get a Silvia under 1100kg haha - its like making a RWD Type-R Integra that has masses of torque and a bit of power too :)
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Postby Mr Ree » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:41 am

Yeah, I think you guys have done extremely well with it, and given how much more potential it will have left in it with future chassis development, it sure is a recipe for success for those of us with budgets (most of us)

All the way home on Saturday, I was thinking to myself..."I wonder how much nicer to drive my whale would be if it could shed a third of its mass?"

My tyres and brakes would work better/last alot longer, thats for certain lol
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Postby Lith » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:01 pm

Mr Ree wrote:Yeah, I think you guys have done extremely well with it, and given how much more potential it will have left in it with future chassis development, it sure is a recipe for success for those of us with budgets (most of us)


Cheers :) I'm pleased with how my stuff has gone, and that stuff has been doable because Adrian has picked and put together well a bunch of the right parts in the right ways. Very clever and talented chap, he is.

All the way home on Saturday, I was thinking to myself..."I wonder how much nicer to drive my whale would be if it could shed a third of its mass?"

My tyres and brakes would work better/last alot longer, thats for certain lol


1/3rd of the mass, hahahaha that's crazy talk - but even a couple hundred kg would make a big difference to braking, cornering, acceleration, parts durability and general fun-to-drive factor :) Your (or similar) drivetrain in a Silvia would work well ;)

Days like that, and the impending Road & Track outing do nothing for my "lack of fun car" situation - I'm going to have to do something about that at some point I think.
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Postby 2jayzgte » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:20 pm

Quickest improvement to that Silvia will be tires tell him to splash out on some new slicks if you want a a couple of seconds thats where you start.

If you want development go talk to Al @ Macbilt Engineering they had Tony Olivers S15 in the 10s at Manfield before it was sold.That Silvia was a development project built by them from scratch.
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Postby Lith » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:31 pm

2jayzgte wrote:Quickest improvement to that Silvia will be tires tell him to splash out on some new slicks if you want a a couple of seconds thats where you start.

If you want development go talk to Al @ Macbilt Engineering they had Tony Olivers S15 in the 10s at Manfield before it was sold.That Silvia was a development project built by them from scratch.


I'm sure he would splash out on new tyres if he had the money to, the fact he's managed to do 17s on his first Manfeild outing with it with how limited the budget it has been built on definitely indicates to me he has a fairly good idea of how to effectively spend his racecar development budget :) Its a shame that both the money and the ability to use it effectively to build a fast car/driver don't often end up with the same person.
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