Taupo Trackday....

Truenotch · Post by **Truenotch** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:35 pm

1:16 is really fast for a levin. Whats done to it?

NZ_AE86 · Post by **NZ_AE86** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:56 pm

Yeah that is more then fast! I would be keen to see that?

KinLoud · Post by **KinLoud** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:00 pm

I think I am correct in saying that "everything" was done to GH's AE86!
3sgte I think...

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OMG so shiny! · Post by **Dell'Orto** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:02 pm

I was going to say, is his 3SGTE one road legal?

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:40 am

NZ_AE86 wrote:
2jayzgte wrote:Its horse's for course's no desrespect to you AE86 guys but as well as you guys went at Taupo where the track was tight with quick changes of direction this is where your cars are in the element but as RH9 has stated Manfield and Puke a half decent setup Supra or GTR or Evo is owning you guys by at least 3 seconds a lap thats just a fact and HP plays a large key here.
Another thing to look at is the fact that your cars are dedicated race cars where as for the average joe like myself who drive to the track and drive home.Slicks to also help your cause GRIP where as your average road user will have semi's at best,in my view slicks are worth 2-3 seconds a lap.So really when you look at it at Taupo where the track is tight and not that fast yes your cars are in there element.So us guys in the bigger cars with HP do really well to better or equal what you guys do but reality will kick in at Manfield or Puke.To stay with a Road legal GTR or Supra at Manfield your going to have to be in that 1.21 or under area or its just good night I'll see you in the next session or in the pits when I'm parked...

I don't disagree
Although 1.21s at manfield are just around the corner which is pretty fast for a road legal AE86 with a standard engine!

What AE86 was yours?????

Standard engine yep thats me as well and factory weight 1600 kgs with the lightweight me attributting to 110 kgs of that weight...lol,well I gotta eat right..My car is a boost controller,full exhaust and cold air box with pod filter.I still run the Factory turbo's yes ct12 pea shooters cams,injectors and ecu....But in saying this I have raped the TRD catalogue for suspension bits basically everything you can get for the Supra I have Bushes Swaybars Springs and Shocks.Brakes Standard Sumitomo 4-pots slotted TRD rotors with TRD red pads front and rear.

GH 1.16 around Manfield is flying what class or series do you run in??

I mean the quickest I have been around Manfield is 1.19.4 and I'm absolutely going for it and the only way I think I can go quicker is lose some weight which I doubt will happen or go to slicks which I don't want to go to as I like the fact that my car is a true street car full interior aircon and drives to the track and drives home..

yraceu · Post by **yraceu** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:25 am

wasnt the supra designed to be some sorta supercar tho???so if it was slow it would just be gay??? It would have better aerodynamics than an old rolla, or a box like evo?

I guess all im saying is that yes your car might be largely standard, but so's a GT3, so i guess you gotta keep in mind what a car was designed for?

RH9 · Post by **RH9** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:54 am

Next track day will be very interesting...........some bold claims being made but hey its all good friendly ribbing im sure :wink:

1:16 from a Levin at Manfield is a big ask but if thats what you reckon then i'll have to say you have a rocketship!! Thats faster than any road car i know of

Whats been done to the beast?

TWSTD · Post by **TWSTD** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:37 pm

This the car in question? More pics up on the Driven Performance website (events section)

Lith · Post by **Lith** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:43 pm

RH9 wrote:1:16 from a Levin at Manfield is a big ask but if thats what you reckon then i'll have to say you have a rocketship!! Thats faster than any road car i know of

I know I've seen a "road car" FD3S RX7 (ie, it was obviously setup for track - but no less road car than many of the cars people on here drive) on I *think* was Formula-Rs get seriously close to if not crack the 1:16s around Manfeild. Can't remember the exact times, but it was very pleasing to see

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:36 pm

RH9 wrote:Next track day will be very interesting...........some bold claims being made but hey its all good friendly ribbing im sure

1:16 from a Levin at Manfield is a big ask but if thats what you reckon then i'll have to say you have a rocketship!! Thats faster than any road car i know of

Whats been done to the beast?

Mate there are a few sleepers out there but the line between peoples thinking of a real street driven road car and street/circuit car are very slim.In my opinion a real street car that goes to the track is one that is driven to the track for starters full interior and road legal tires no cage WOF rego they are a few things I'd look at to really be called a street/circuit car but others may think different and this is only my opinion..

TWSTD · Post by **TWSTD** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:55 pm

There is a difference between "daily driver" and "street legal" - i assume thats whats up for debate here :-)

AL

RH9 · Post by **RH9** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:59 pm

Ahhhh now i can see why 1:16's is achievable.....i've actually met GH at Puke and admired his car. Out of interest what times do you run around Puke?

I agree Coryn, my car isnt "street legal" at the moment although it still has a WOF/reg. The 1/2 cage has never been hologated and several mods need certing. Its what i'd call "JDM street legal" as i've modelled it on those kinds of vehicles one would see in Japan. It has carpet, a stereo, central locking and pwr steering..... :lol:

I dont have aircon though so that makes my car extra dodgy :oops:

yraceu · Post by **yraceu** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:11 pm

personally i think "driving" to a track doesnt make 1 bit of difference, i trailer because I like to be prepared and its a nicer drive home if you have rock hard suspension etc, plus why sit 4 hours from home waiting for a tow? I used to think nothing of driving to AK and running a drag meet or going to every manfield open day, Taupo club days but a few mishaps put me off that, plus beer keeps colder in an airconed tow car.

I think theres probably a difference between "able to be driven on the street" and actually being "street driven" , but hey, thats no different to the dyno ponies and cars with tv screens where they shouldnt be that win shows and claim to be "driven".

Now- im just waiting for mr Evo 88u to turn up on this...isnt he down to 1.14 now?

NZ_AE86 · Post by **NZ_AE86** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:17 pm

2jayzgte wrote:What AE86 was yours?????

Blue/Purple as seen in the pic next to my posts.

Lith · Post by **Lith** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:18 pm

I reckon Mr 2JZGTE's car is probably the most impressive case of meeting the "daily driver" category - cracking 1:19s with a not overly modified reliable AUTO car often seen driving on the road is immensly impressive. There are a couple of rexs I've seen do it, though I'm pretty sure whenever I've seen them on the track they're pretty hollow.

GH · Post by GH » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:51 pm

Twstd nice pics of my old version of this car (see the mod plate to the right of engine bay) that car indeed did 1.04 puky, 1.16 man, 41 taupo (I think) on old track, 1.47 on slicks new track. New version more POWER finish soon.

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:56 pm

Everyone has there own opinion on the street/circuit car as we have already seen with the responses which is all good....

Now Evo 88u I have personally watched this car evolve over time and I give credit where credit is due but about a year ago I thought this car went to just from a street/circuit car to just the latter and with it now being fully caged stroked slicked it is really moved on up there.Last time I heard I think he was at a 14.7 at Manfield but now he's after 10s so he will definitely be untouchable unless you have a bank balance to match also he's not a bad peddler either.Personally if I wanted to go sub 14 quick it would cost me probably another $30-40 grand and thats for real so I think I'm pretty close to the limit of what I have and in the end if I'm not willing to spend the $$$ you just gotta be happy where your at.....For me any day at the track where I can drive there thrash all day and drive home is a good day in my books.

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:40 am

yraceu wrote:wasnt the supra designed to be some sorta supercar tho???so if it was slow it would just be [person of homosexual orientation]??? It would have better aerodynamics than an old rolla, or a box like evo?

I guess all im saying is that yes your car might be largely standard, but so's a GT3, so i guess you gotta keep in mind what a car was designed for?

Yes it was supposed to be in that class just below supercar status 10-12 years ago but technology has moved on hence why there are so many cars that are as quick or quicker now.Aerodynamics well yes they are meant to be quite slippery but this is offset by there weight and large frontal area.So aerodynamics only play a part in high speed running now if we were on a motorway or Autobarn then you'd see the aerodynamic advantage but on a track I don't think there is one to be honest..

As for straight out performance well this is the reason I like the Supra because the base performance is quite high you don't have to do alot to get alot and the thing that I most like is not its performance which is more than adequate but its the reliability I can beat on my car all day and it just keeps coming back for more..

RH9 · Post by **RH9** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:48 am

yraceu wrote:personally i think "driving" to a track doesnt make 1 bit of difference, i trailer because I like to be prepared and its a nicer drive home if you have rock hard suspension etc, plus why sit 4 hours from home waiting for a tow? I used to think nothing of driving to AK and running a drag meet or going to every manfield open day, Taupo club days but a few mishaps put me off that, plus beer keeps colder in an airconed tow car.

I think theres probably a difference between "able to be driven on the street" and actually being "street driven" , but hey, thats no different to the dyno ponies and cars with tv screens where they shouldnt be that win shows and claim to be "driven".

Now- im just waiting for mr Evo 88u to turn up on this...isnt he down to 1.14 now?

Part of the fun is driving too n from the track.......some roads which can only be sampled when your near Taupo which just need to be driven come to mind esp behind Mangakino! If i had loads of loot and could build myself a nice race car trailor I think i'd still drive to events as this shows a true "street car" - well at least it does according to my own definition of "streeter"

Man 1:14's is a superb effort, who does his work now since the divorce with Speedtech?

RH9 · Post by **RH9** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:54 am

Coryn i see what your saying

A bit like the old GTR I feel...........back in its heyday before the Evo's were even on tarmac they had no competition. Nowadays the playing field is more level and the "big dogs" dont really have a home - but in saying that they are always fun especially when trying to tame their behaviour :lol:

Im just in it for the fun, you prob will never see me at Superlap in this car but maybe someday i'll build something else and give it a go. Too much money and sentimental value tied up in the old bltch