are 20V's really better

Black · Post by **Black** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:06 am

what is your opinion on 20V's. do you think there is actely a diffrence in performance. after much research about this i would like to know what NZ's opinion is

B1NZ · Post by **B1NZ** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:41 am

Stock for stock, yes the 20v has a fair bit more performance, especially the blacktop, as for reliabilty i still dont think you can beat the old 16V technology!!

snwtoy · Post by **snwtoy** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:45 am

WTF? There's figures on paper that say the 20v puts out more power stock than a 16v.

What do you mean 'better' ?

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:15 pm

haha *waits for it*

i love em both

CozmoNz · Post by **CozmoNz** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:40 pm

OH DEAR GOD NO, SOMEONE BURN THIS THREAD NOWWWW

note - 4agze 4 lyfe.

Brick · Post by **Brick** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:34 pm

the newer the engine usually means more powerful than old because of the better technology, but the more "advacned" or with the better "technology" just means more can go wrong

16v rules

blackie · Post by **blackie** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:01 am

standard yes, a blacktop seems to have a bit more performance than a redtop 16.

i havent driven a silvertop, but i seem to have negative perceptions about them, im not sure why. :lol:

4ageman · Post by **4ageman** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:49 pm

Dont belive everything you read snwtoy. The figures toyota put out on the 20v are bull. it's been covered many time's. I say 16v cause 20v take it up the jacksie!!!!!

HELBND · Post by **HELBND** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:02 pm

4ageman wrote:Dont belive everything you read snwtoy. The figures toyota put out on the 20v are bull. it's been covered many time's.

does it then make it logical to assume the 16v figures are just as inaccurate?

4ageman wrote:I say 16v cause 20v take it up the jacksie!!!!!

I say 20v just cause id be embarrased to associate myself with anything like the sheer stupidity of this comment

Lith · Post by **Lith** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:29 pm

I haven't seen anything to convince me the 20v Silvertop is any better than a normal 16v, most of the dyno figures with basic mods are pretty similar.

Black top is better though

RomanV · Post by **RomanV** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:13 pm

Yeah, the blacktop seems to put out a good amount in many cases, but the silvertop often seems to be a let down.

Perhaps due to high ks, on a high revving engine?

HELBND · Post by **HELBND** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:40 pm

well well find out what a low kms one does when i get it onto the dyno aye dave :twisted:

i guess no matter what, im still a helluva lot lighter than an ae101 :lol:

DJ · Post by DJ » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:56 pm

Umm, no. nop. never. negative. hell no. nup.

No.

RomanV · Post by **RomanV** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:47 pm

HELBND wrote:well well find out what a low kms one does when i get it onto the dyno aye dave

Yep, hope it goes well for you.

i guess no matter what, im still a helluva lot lighter than an ae101

Weighbridge or it didnt happen.

slighty_looney · Post by **slighty_looney** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:35 am

my silvertop goes well, iv never had any problems with it, and it goes alot better then a 16v, iv got the last of the silvertop engine, it goes hard and its neva piked out, my mates on his 2nd blacktop engine, they go way better but are alot weaker bottom end

mupp3t · Post by **mupp3t** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:18 pm

16v - more torque - who needs power in fifth gear?

RomanV · Post by **RomanV** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:52 pm

Who needs fifth gear, when you're driving a 4age like it should be driven?

It's not as if either of them are famous for having gobs of torque.

CozmoNz · Post by **CozmoNz** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:24 pm

DJ wrote:Umm, no. nop. never. negative. hell no. nup.

No.

any experience? or you just doing a bandwagon jump?

touge rolla · Post by **touge rolla** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:22 am

be happy with either but more valves=coolerer so does more throttle bodies.
\/ just look \/

bluemaumau · Post by **bluemaumau** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:25 am

20vs are better for a one off thrashing, say a track day

16vs better for your daily driver(reliable)

no vote, and my 2c

but as cozmo said ------ weres the 4agze?

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