Changing Vehicle Usage

ee904age · Post by **ee904age** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:15 pm

Has anyone tried to change the "Vehicle Usage" part of a rego before?

I'm probably piss*ng in the wind here, but I have a diesel L200 used as a daily driver and on it's rego papers it's Vehicle usage is listed as "Standard Goods" however 99% of the time I'm only using it as "Private Passenger" other than the odd load of builders mix or my motorbike which is still private use.

Is it possible to have it changed or due to the number of seating positions vs payload am I stuck with a "Standard Goods" rego and the rediculous licensing fees that come with it?

evil_si · Post by **evil_si** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:41 pm

Yes,
There is a write up on the ltsa website... Somewere

It depends on the type of ute. Passenger compartment space vs "commercial" deck space,
From whati read a double cab would be able to change usage reasonably easily - a single cab not so much

Guess it all depends on the ltsa rep when you try.

SkylineObsession · Post by **SkylineObsession** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:46 pm

When we bought our Hiace it was classed as a goods/service vehicle or whatever (ex plumbers van), i think all my wife did was fill in the appropriate form and hand it over. It only has the three front seats, none in the back.

But that may be different.

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:55 pm

Will be pushing your luck, legal requirements are passenger allowance more than 50% of difference between tare weight and GVM. Based on 68kg per seating position from memory, so a 5 seater would need load capacity separate to seating capacity of less than 340kg. Not seen many utes with a rating that low for the deck, who would even bother buying one? Single cab (even bench seat) would need a load rating of less than 204kg.

Callum

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:33 pm

fill it full of seats and you can change it from NA to MB. Google is your friend.

Otherwise, you're f**ked. It's a van. It'll always be a van.

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:52 pm

Leon wrote:Otherwise, you're f**ked. It's a van. It'll always be a van.

How was that coffee? L200 is a ute. :lol:

Callum

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:31 am

Ah sorry, my Mitsi knowledge aint great, I must be thinking L300 as a van right?

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:56 am

Yeah L300 is the van version.

Callum

Quint · Post by **Quint** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:05 am

Just find out what appropriate papers you need, fill them in and hand them over.

You can change your vehicle to anything, they wont like it, but it's at your own risk. Doubt you'd ever get a ticket for having your ute registered for private use... considering that's what it's for, just make sure you tick the non-petrol option

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:37 am

Quint wrote:Just find out what appropriate papers you need, fill them in and hand them over.

You can change your vehicle to anything, they wont like it, but it's at your own risk. Doubt you'd ever get a ticket for having your ute registered for private use... considering that's what it's for, just make sure you tick the non-petrol option

You're getting "usage" and "vehicle type" muddled up here, which means what you're saying isn't correct for the purposes of what I think the original poster is asking.

Use would mean private, commercial, rental, forestry etc etc.

Type of vehicle = basically car (MA), van (NA), minibus (MB), 4x4 offroad (MC).

Your "use" type will be private unless you've chosen otherwise. You can chose what you want, but private is the normal default

You can't change your type of vehicle other than with a very limited scope. For example, you can change your stationwagon from MA (car) to (NA) commercial goods if you reduce the seating positions, and have the whole back of the car as goods area. But there are bugger all other changes you can make, other than that and between NA (goods) and MB (minibus) and back again by fitting or removing seating positions.

You can not change something built as NA only (this ute for example, will not have been built ever as a passenger vehicle, only ever built to comply with the standards required for commercial goods) to an MA (passenger car) because vehicles complied as passenger car need to meet more standards. Ever wondered why the first Chinese vehicles are NA utes? Cos they have to meet less standards is one of the key reasons.

My assumption is that the original poster has got a bill for his ute for rego label of $333.40 (or $596.67 if diesel) and said GOSH, if this was a car not a ute my rego label would only cost me $287.75 (or $417.61 if diesel).

Basically it's a wanting cheaper rego label issue.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registr ... /fees.html

Quint · Post by **Quint** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:56 am

*makes whoosing noise* Sounds complicated enough to be right

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:39 am

Yeah, if it's related to regulations, and it gives you a brain tumour reading it, then yeah, that's usually right

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:10 am

Apparently I only need to fit another 27 seats in my van to get cheaper rego. :cry:

Callum

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:28 am

Anything is possible....

ee904age · Post by **ee904age** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:22 pm

Leon wrote:
My assumption is that the original poster has got a bill for his ute for rego label of $333.40 (or $596.67 if diesel) and said GOSH, if this was a car not a ute my rego label would only cost me $287.75 (or $417.61 if diesel).

Basically it's a wanting cheaper rego label issue.

Bingo, $596.67. Basically I drive 6km per day in a round trip to work and back and occasionally out to the forest some weekends for a ride. due to saving pretty hard for a new house at present it's not really an option to sell it and buy a petrol in the near future so was looking at cheaper options.

TONKA · Post by **TONKA** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:21 pm

Upside to this is you can park in a goods and services car park