Fitting Wide Alloys

steroidcontaskie · Post by **steroidcontaskie** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:39 pm

Hi all,

I was looking at getting some low offset wide alloys for my soarer and was wondering what peoples veiws are on rolling guards and pulling fenders vs getting widebody fenders put on. Also, will changing the offset by so much cause major handling issues?

Cheers
Edward

d1 mule · Post by **d1 mule** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:04 am

my personal opinion is guards rolled well look better than wide body, but if its extreme wide body is 100000X easier (than fabing new arches)

having very low offset wheels move the curve the wheel takes through its turn further away from the center of rotation, increasing "scrub" which according to race people is a bad thing, that being said iv run 0 offset wheels and offset RCAs and never had a problem.

unless your planning on being a super duper serious race car driver i wouldnt worry about it too much

mytmk3 · Post by **mytmk3** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:20 pm

I personally went widebody with my supra as long as the kit is quality this is an easy option as mines just riveted on depends on if you like the look of the kit

what wheels do you want size/offset?
Do you plan on a full size tyre?
camber to pull in wheels or flat?
style or perfomance more important to you?
are you truly prepared for the costs?

honestly widebody 10k+ if you use cheap wheels and paint. Work wheels decent rubber and show finish double it

Edit was going to say look at my sig I know from 1st hand experience but have just seen my love note about size lol

steroidcontaskie · Post by **steroidcontaskie** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:35 pm

Cheers for the responses.

The reason I asked was because I came across some alloys that I like which are cheap.

They are 19x11 p20. I would like to have them flat (no camber) and as full sized tyre as possible. I am not going to be racing the car, so I guess that it is more for looks, but I also dont want something that is a pain to drive. Also, I am not into spending 10K on it.

I guess it sounds like I wont be able to make them fit for the amount of money I would be willing to spend. I think I would have to pull the guards by about 25mm to get them to fit. Would that be expensive to do too?

Cheers
Ed

mytmk3 · Post by **mytmk3** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:54 pm

steroidcontaskie wrote:Cheers for the responses.

The reason I asked was because I came across some alloys that I like which are cheap.

They are 19x11 p20. I would like to have them flat (no camber) and as full sized tyre as possible. I am not going to be racing the car, so I guess that it is more for looks, but I also dont want something that is a pain to drive. Also, I am not into spending 10K on it.

I guess it sounds like I wont be able to make them fit for the amount of money I would be willing to spend. I think I would have to pull the guards by about 25mm to get them to fit. Would that be expensive to do too?

Cheers
Ed

25mm is quite alot seen a picture of a jzz30 in nz running 18x12 allround cant remember offset eihter 0 or +17 he was using 275s? and a lot of camber

the wheels you want would be 33mm closer to the guards than his so maybe doable with an aggressive pull and a 275 smallest of the legal size for an 11 I dont know what sort of sizes people run on soarers so not much for me to do calculations on if it were a mk3 on the other hand
i could help alot more

this should be your freind http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

enter your current offsets and the ones you want and go and actualy see how they will fit

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:42 pm

Did you want it 100% legal?

Callum

steroidcontaskie · Post by **steroidcontaskie** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:02 pm

Yes, I would like it to be legal. What are the illegal options?

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:24 pm

Well change offset by 12.5mm a side and you have to cert the car for the wheels. You can also only run a maximum of 0.5 degrees camber over factory tolerance. This will affect how much clearance you need for your wheels.

Callum

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:14 pm

True, but i've yet to hear anyone say they failed a wof due to their wheels having a different offset to factory. Anything running really low (if not negative) offset is technically illegal going by that.

Also isn't the camber tolerance only for cert?

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:21 pm

That is the 100% legal answer, not the "what shit can I sneak through a WoF and get screwed by my insurer when I need them most" answer.

Callum

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:21 pm

And yes COOL KP is getting certed before the new wheels go on, along with the 7K, geabox, diff and brakes.

Callum

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:23 pm

I hope you keep that rear camber in check :lol:

Removed part of my post as you had replied so thought it would be missed.

steroidcontaskie · Post by **steroidcontaskie** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:32 pm

Cool, thanks for all the info guys. Any idea how much getting fenders pulled will cost?

If it is expensive, I might invest that money in some higher offset alloys

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:38 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:I hope you keep that rear camber in check

This Starlet is sweet, it is the other Starlet and the KE70 I'm worried about. 300hp V8 in a KE70 wagon cut down into a ute with 17x8's and 9.5's and POSITIVE camber.

Callum

LatitudeNZ · Post by **LatitudeNZ** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:06 pm

Dude, fellow Soarer owner here.
Try http://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-400-300/290699-official-wheel-and-tire-fitment-guide-for-sc300-sc400.html for a good look at what the guys in the states run.

Just by a guess, i dont think youll ever get those wheels under the guards without a pull or running some camber.

d1 mule · Post by **d1 mule** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:18 am

wde_bdy wrote: 300hp V8 in a KE70 wagon cut down into a ute with 17x8's and 9.5's and POSITIVE camber.

apart from the v8 that sounds like the worst KE70 ever.....

and also when do insurance companies ever not try to screw you???

steroidcontaskie · Post by **steroidcontaskie** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:51 pm

Cheers for all the imput, I tink I will give the ultra wide rims a miss and get ones that fit without modification to the guards.

Edward