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by **bOi** » Wed May 30, 2007 6:40 pm

my 20v is slow..

but being said that its fun to drive around..

Bought one cuz i thought it was cool.. :lol:

by **Lanius** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:22 pm

Lith wrote:
Lanius wrote:Having said that ... I'll agree with Lith, B16a > 4AGE

When did I say that in this thread - did I subconsciously blurt it out???

Edit: While I agree with that comment, you'll find Si is who made that statement

oops, my apologies ...

by **Cakky** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:50 pm

i dont know why people keep quoting weight

a bz-g levin weighs as much as my corolla
id say an ae101 wouldnt be too far off??

by **Zak** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:19 pm

101 are quite a bit heavier than the rest of the corolla range, aside from the zz12x corollas

by **bOi** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:53 pm

Bz-R 20v > EK B16A SiR..

now where was that video.. :lol:

by **Lith** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:35 pm

Lanius wrote:
Lith wrote:Edit: While I agree with that comment, you'll find Si is who made that statement

oops, my apologies ...

Haha thats ok, I thought I might have been having a senior moment.

BZ-R 20v > EK SiR isn't too surprising. I'd say the DC2 is more of a parallel to the BZ-R though, Civic is a Corolla equivalent.

by **bluemaumau** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:42 pm

bOi wrote:Bz-R 20v > EK B16A SiR..

now where was that video..

considering the 20v has about 8 years advantage thats not surprising :wink:

by **AceSniper** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:26 am

Lith wrote:BZ-R 20v > EK SiR isn't too surprising. I'd say the DC2 is more of a parallel to the BZ-R though, Civic is a Corolla equivalent.

And how is that fair... b18 vs blacktop... hmm maybe a 7a blacktop thats not dodgyed

by **bOi** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:52 am

Lith wrote:Civic is a Corolla equivalent.

You said it urself How can a 1.6 be compared to 1.8? :lol:

a Bz-r is a corolla... :roll:

by **bOi** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:02 pm

Just for interest

for 20V fans :

Blacktop vs B16A
:arrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5le-OcHFt0

Bz-V vs eg SiR II
:arrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zokbL_gd2w

Blacktop vs SiR vs SR20
:arrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju7XtrblFTQ&mode=related&search=

enjoy

But being said that, Id say Bz-R < CTR

by **bOi** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:08 pm

Just a bit more :wink:

AE111 BT Dyno
:arrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHV8yBxgdk&mode=related&search=

AE111 Bz-G on track
:arrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrvezGrq-Q4&mode=related&search=

and who did this i wonder...
:arrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB952uQacfM&mode=related&search=

:lol:

by **bOi** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:21 pm

one more..

a bit OT but damn..

Super starlet..
:arrow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ZiSPNW6tg&mode=related&search=

by **Mr Revhead** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:28 pm

best motoring vis mean nothing.
that dyno run..... rather pointless.....

by **bOi** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:36 pm

thats why i said just for interest... :wink:

by **Lith** » Thu May 31, 2007 4:47 pm

AceSniper wrote:
Lith wrote:And how is that fair... b18 vs blacktop... hmm maybe a 7a blacktop thats not dodgyed

Its not fair. But neither is two cars with the same engine size where one of them is a heavier car with less of a performance orientation - the fact that Honda went 1.8 with their zippy FWD Coupe means there isn't really a fair parallel.

Becomes a bit of a chalk and cheese affair.

red car · by pc » Thu May 31, 2007 5:37 pm

bOi wrote:Just for interest for 20V fans :
Blacktop vs B16A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5le-OcHFt0
But being said that, Id say Bz-R < CTR

I've never seen a b16 powered anything go slower than 15.5s
Most are in the 14.5s - 15s bracket.

by **sergei** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:49 pm

pc wrote:
bOi wrote:Just for interest for 20V fans :
Blacktop vs B16A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5le-OcHFt0
But being said that, Id say Bz-R < CTR

I've never seen a b16 powered anything go slower than 15.5s
Most are in the 14.5s - 15s bracket.

Do you realize that their track possibly is located at high altitude?
15.5 that is what would you expect from a BZG as well.

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:41 pm

Lith wrote:Its not fair. But neither is two cars with the same engine size where one of them is a heavier car with less of a performance orientation - the fact that Honda went 1.8 with their zippy FWD Coupe means there isn't really a fair parallel.

Becomes a bit of a chalk and cheese affair.

So a B16A isnt a performance motor?

by **Lith** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:53 pm

Mmm, Boost wrote:
Lith wrote:Becomes a bit of a chalk and cheese affair.

So a B16A isnt a performance motor?

Its like comparing an 13B-REW RX7 with a RWD Turbo Skyline wouldn't be a fair match up for one reason, while a 13B-REW Cosmo against a RWD Turbo Skyline wouldn't be fair for the same kind of reason but the other way around.

An EG6 SiR versus an AE101 FX-GT just wouldn't be so much fun would it?

by **JIZRAG** » Thu May 31, 2007 8:54 pm

LMAO at the youtube videos, love to see that with my own eyes here in NZ, never seen a bZR keep up with an EK or EG Sir

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