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by **low_rider** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:27 pm

whats the cheapest way of running a turbo on a smallport 4age in an ae92 fxgt ,managment wise

i cant afford a afta market engine managment at the mo so whats the cheapest way

by **Monsterbishi** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:23 pm

low_rider wrote:whats the cheapest way of running a turbo on a smallport 4age in an ae92 fxgt ,managment wise
i cant afford a afta market engine managment at the mo so whats the cheapest way

ae92 4agze ecu & loom & dli setup.

by **Stu-** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:51 pm

Stock ecu if you foll around with it. Good for a couple of psi

by **low_rider** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:09 pm

wat do you mean fool round with it i only wanna start with bout 6-7 psi

by **mister2** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:51 am

cheap = boom.

dont bother, its not worth the hassle of 'tricking' the stock ecu - talk to mrozio for the results of this.

turbolinks are about $500, powerlinks are cheaper, if you can't afford either of these you shouldnt be doing a turbo conversion.

cheers

nick

by **ezy10s** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:19 pm

nuf said on that me thinks.
if you cant afford to do it right- dont do it at all

by **EVLGTZ** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:19 pm

mister2 wrote:cheap = boom.

dont bother, its not worth the hassle of 'tricking' the stock ecu - talk to mrozio for the results of this.

turbolinks are about $500, powerlinks are cheaper, if you can't afford either of these you shouldnt be doing a turbo conversion.

cheers

nick

actually using the std ecu is not a problem IF you know what you are doing and know the limits of this type of setup.

but yeah the turbolink and powerlink are good cheap options

by **low_rider** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:09 pm

evl gtz do you know what you are doing?
could you do it for me

by **RedMist** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:57 pm

[quote="low_rider"]wat do you mean fool round with it i only wanna start with bout 6-7 psi[/quote]

You have to think about your ultimate goal. Your going to run a 10.3:1 compression motor on boost? With a stock ECU? With no knock detection? 6-7PSI? BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.

by **THA SHZ** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:28 pm

AE92 levin map sensored , so you can use this easily for what you want and run standard computer someone on here had the loom for sale and sparten autowreckers has the computer for bout $190 .

by **suberimakuri** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:42 pm

nothing wrong with the compression.
nothing wrong with no knock detection.

it's all in the fuel and spark.

by **matt dunn** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:37 pm

EVLGTZ wrote:
mister2 wrote:cheap = boom.

dont bother, its not worth the hassle of 'tricking' the stock ecu - talk to mrozio for the results of this.

turbolinks are about $500, powerlinks are cheaper, if you can't afford either of these you shouldnt be doing a turbo conversion.

cheers

nick

actually using the std ecu is not a problem IF you know what you are doing and know the limits of this type of setup.

but yeah the turbolink and powerlink are good cheap options

If you dont already have a loom or an ECU or a map sensor and have to byt all three then std way will be about the same as aftermarket and not as good in my opinion.

Matt

by **low_rider** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:16 pm

already have all 3 in car

by **Drifter4ag** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:49 pm

redtop turbo is mean .. compression is the shiz .. dont let mutton limit your boost you must unlearn what you have learned to make true power

by **matt dunn** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:24 am

low_rider wrote:already have all 3 in car

Do you have a supercharged ECU & sensor, cause wont run on non-supercharged one with boost.
If you do then your 1/2 way there already.

by **suberimakuri** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:09 am

shudup... yes it will.

by **EVLGTZ** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:13 am

Karl_Skewes wrote:shudup... yes it will.

hehe of course it will

by **low_rider** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:26 pm

evl gtz can u do it for me or tell me what to do :0

by **low_rider** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:52 am

also wat about a apexi safc would that make it run a hell of alot betta

by **TWSTD** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:24 am

If your car is MAP not AFM then you can do what i did when i turbo'd the AE115 carib. Replace the MAP sensor with a 2-BAR MR2 item and replace the injectors to suit. Now with the 7AFE engine the 2 bar MAP and starlet GT injectors provided a perfect fuel curve (as shown below). You will also need to knock back the timing. Best way to do this would be to use something like an MSD Boost timing master. PM me if u want help locating one - i can proabably get one in from the USA for you. With a 4AGE you may or may not be able to use the starlet GT injectors - its all about matching the voltage output on the MAP sensor to the increased flow thought the larger injectors - as the injector pulse never changes as the stock ECU has no idea you have put larger injectors in. In you are skeptical about this methodology go do some web searches - its done a lot in the USA.

Dyno sheet: Note fuel curve at the top.

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