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Understanding Toyota Transaxle codes

Postby xsspeed » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:53 am

Does anyone have the good oil on understanding toyota transaxle codes.

More specifically the diff codes,

For example, a common one is C56-04A (open) vs C56-04C (lsd),
As far as I can tell, C relates to gearbox family, 56 relates to the different spec'd ratios or final drive? 04 relates to Diff pinions, and the A or C relates to diff type (Open vs type of LSD)

I have come across similar for the S series gearboxes,
S54-04A, S54-06A, and S54-06D.
So I assume the S54-04A, shares the same diff (size?) as the C56-04A.

S54-06A, has a larger diff (open) and S54-06D, has a larger (than 04A) and lsd diff.

What I am keen to find out is, what are the Diff ratios (between 04A, and 06A) and what specifically do the letters for the diff code signify? (ie is A - open, B - viscous LSD, C - Torsen LSD, D - Helical LSD ???)

Have found this from Mark/ae25:
http://www.club-k.co.nz/Forums/viewthread.php?tid=10452

And this chart in various forms (which is kind of what Mark has extended on above):
http://www.toysport.com/technical%20information/toyota%20differentials%20identifications.htm

Neither of which quite explain the last identifier - (ie 04A, 04C, 06A, 06D)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:31 pm

Torsen and Helical are the same thing :wink:
I think I had it worked out back in the day but I've forgotten now I'm not dealing with it all the time :?
But the Letter is definitely telling you what type of diff it is. A is definitely open. And I'm pretty sure C is Helical/Torsen
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Postby xsspeed » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:33 pm

Cheers Rev, helical for D was a guess as there is S54 box in a front cut celica on trademe with a helical lsd with the 06D diff code.
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Postby strx7 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:04 pm

the -04 -06 etc is the diff ratio in the box, never seen any chart as to what they equate to, i would assume each gearbox series would need its own chart.
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Postby iOnic » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:52 pm

Yeah varies from series to series and a lot of the possible combinations have no actual meaning other than being sequential numbers/letters referencing a list of possible options for that gearbox/final drive and may not necessarily mean the same thing when used in the same combination on another gearbox/final drive.
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Postby ®usty » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:48 pm

From the ST20# Celica series they had these, not too sure about MR2's

SS-I
SS-I 1994-1999
S54-04A LSD type: none

SS-II
SS-II (1994-1997)
S54-06A LSD type: none

SS-II Superstrut edition (1994-1995)
E56-04C LSD type: Viscious (I need more references to 100% confirm '04C', but does have viscious LSD)

SS-II BEAMS (1997-1999)
S54-06A LSD type: none

SS-III
SS-III Superstrut (1995-1997)
S54-06D LSD type: Helical

SS-III Superstrut BEAMS (1997-1999) same as 1995-1997
S54-06D LSD type: Helical

GT-Four
GT-Four 1994-1999
E154F- 08B
Centre differential: Viscous
Rear differential: Torsen


TRD
TRD Mechanical LSD I
To fit all ST202・203・206・207 (S54-###) 1994-1999 Superstrut or McPhearson strut. Factory equiped with a Helical lsd or no lsd.
41301-ST804

TRD Mechanical LSD II
To fit all ST202・203・206・207 (E56-04C/###) 1994-1995 Superstrut Factory equiped with a Viscious lsd only.
41301-ST000



Both S54-06A/D have the same Final Drive: 4.176:1 (via partno.'s)
The E56 has the Final Drive: 3.944:1
The S54-04A Final drive I dont know
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:52 am

Hilux Surf manual gearbox P151F AO2B - LSD or open?


I know the auto A34OF AO3A is open dif
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Postby strx7 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:29 am

Santa'sBoostinSleigh wrote:Hilux Surf manual gearbox P151F AO2B - LSD or open?


I know the auto A34OF AO3A is open dif


its R151F not P151F, same box i used in my JZN130 surf. A02B SHOULD be LSD, although not sure if 2 spider or 4 spider. to be a surf and with the late type codes it has to be a #ZN185 series.
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:37 am

cheers, sorry just going off what info I was given...
yep from KZN185

this box be any good with a 1UZ driving it?
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Postby strx7 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:39 am

yeah it'd be sweet.

that is the better box, the R150F has a shorter 5th gear than the 151 so you pull more rpm at 100kph
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:55 am

MINT, would just need a fan-dangled bellhousing then i spose...
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Postby strx7 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:07 am

lathe, part off, weld up and presto a bell housing.
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Postby KinLoud » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:14 am

Yeah - different fwd gearboxes have different final drive ratios....

From memory Corolla C series gearboxes are 4.3 final drive ratio
Starlet C series boxes have maybe a 3.9 ratio

Why?

The Starlet runs a smaller diameter tyre from factory so it has a ratio that will make the engine revs lower when cruising
Popular swap for starlet fans is to get the corolla final drive ratio so its easier to give the car a thrashing!

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Postby strx7 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:45 am

KinLoud wrote:
Why?

The Starlet runs a smaller diameter tyre from factory so it has a ratio that will make the engine revs lower when cruising
Popular swap for starlet fans is to get the corolla final drive ratio so its easier to give the car a thrashing!

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hence Rav4 with its 4.9 diff into corolla = fun times indeed!!!!
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