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by **Dori_85** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:26 pm

hey all, just wanting everyones opinion on what would be the best choice for a 4agte. cause i bought a custom manifold + td05 for my ae85 so im getting there :lol:

and i just got a job at a radiator and intercooler workshop so theres the all the cooling sorted :lol:

. next stop nite parts for a diff. but anyway back to the main point.
ive heard lots of different stories from reputable workshops and retailers about "we did a sr20det with a microtech and it worked wonders" or "i know a guy who hooked up a linkplus in his blah and it went like a rocket". as there telling me this im thinking 'shut up, i dont care about nissans or hondas or mazdas etc, i want to know whats best for a toyota'.
so all of u guys with 4agte's could u give me an idea on whats a good easily tunable ecu. i know those 3 r all roughly $1000 to $1800.
i know of only 3 people with 4agte's on the is forum being EVLGTZ(link?), takumi(link or linkplus)) and drifter4ag(not sure). so y is it that i havnt heard of anyone using microtech on 4a's?

im going to stop rambling and wait for some replys. :lol:

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cheers

Website · by **offensive** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:03 am

im no expert buuut, links i think are a bit cheaper, and link have programming specifically suited to 4ages, and supposdily have good tech help like with 0800 help numbers n stuff.

but i dont know nething so wait for the next reply

by **EVLGTZ** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:24 am

yup I'm using Link EM4 and no issues what so ever, pretty happy with it but then again I haven't got anything else to really compare it against other than the std ecu

Drifter4ag has LInk EMX but may be upgrading this at the mo?

EP714AGTE is using Linkplus.

And theres a few good tuners around (locally) for these which is definitely something that needs to be taken into consideration

by **mister2** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:45 am

basically, a computer is a computer. and i actually have it on good authority that microtech's are *extremely* similar to LEM's... nothing like a good bit of industrial espionage. they actually appear to use the *same* micro which is interesting considering how microtech markets them... but thats a story for another day.

all of them will do what you want, its just down to the details. dont be influenced by stuff like clock speed and whether its 8/16/32 bit - just look at the list of functions, and if it does what you want, voila.

personally, id go with links, because ive had dealings with them, and because they're local, better customer support. but microtechs will do the job just as well.

nick

by **Logan** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:19 am

EVLGTZ wrote:Drifter4ag has LInk EMX but may be upgrading this at the mo?

EP714AGTE is using Linkplus.

lol! Ive got 1 of em and they a big piles of poooh, soooo old skool and difficult to tune, but cheap, mate got his last one with hand controll for 100 bucks....unless you have a so called "rom editor" the hand control unit can only be used to tune it on the go. ie to tune he 4000rpm 0-5psi boost range you have to actually be in that range. its a right pain in the ass and can be quite dangerous if you dont get it right first time. Usually start hella rich and tune down from there.
Anyway it is 10 or so years old.

EP714AGTE, if your upgrading give me a buz, could be keen to get another off you

by **Drifter4ag** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:20 pm

hey .. link EMX is mean

does your mate wanna sell me his one and controller ? .. gimme a ring on 0211240931 if so ..cheers

by **Logan** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:53 pm

Nah probably not ah, he is using it to run is rally car, a dirty ol viva with throttle body injection

Im running my EMX on my old 3tg, soon to be a 3tgte/2tg hybrid...
and plus i wouldnthave a hand controller to borrow

Logan

by **EVLGTZ** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:25 pm

Logan wrote:
EVLGTZ wrote:Drifter4ag has LInk EMX but may be upgrading this at the mo?

EP714AGTE is using Linkplus.

EP714AGTE, if your upgrading give me a buz, could be keen to get another off you

err he aint upgrading

by **Dori_85** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:34 pm

im most probably going to go with microtech cause my work has an sr20det in a race boat with a microtech and they have hand controllers, lap tops etc to tune them. i just wanted to know if anyone was using microtech with 4a's to see how different the tuning abilitys are between link etc.
cheers for the input

by **MR2boy** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:43 pm

i know theres a guy in auzzie with a 4agte in his mr2 running a microtech mtx-8 or something

by **Stu-** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:46 pm

Logan wrote:EP714AGTE, if your upgrading give me a buz, could be keen to get another off you

I'll be sticking with my linkplus, thanks anyway.

I've been talking to a Link specialist recently and apparently the 4a's well suited to Links (or links are well suited to 4ag's

) with install and tune being quite straight forward. Not sure how microtechs go but I'd assume they would be similar in functions/ease of use. All down to personal preference possibly.

by **Dori_85** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:43 pm

yeah true, i think the sole purpose for me will be that the microtech will be easyier to tune because of laptop etc at work and i can learn how to do it myself instead of paying some a couple of hundred each tme i want to tune it for different occasions

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cheers

by **EVLGTZ** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:18 pm

Dori_85 wrote:yeah true, i think the sole purpose for me will be that the microtech will be easyier to tune because of laptop etc at work and i can learn how to do it myself instead of paying some a couple of hundred each tme i want to tune it for different occasions .

cheers

assuming you know how to tune then? Can tune link by the old laptop too ya know. but once again not recommended unless ya not what ya doing

by **Stu-** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:19 am

Also have a look at the MAPECU and a Megasquirt ECU. MT Karl Skewes from this forum is utlilising a Megasquirt with great results. He's got a brilliant detailed article on his website if your interested. Its fairly easy to setup and also has the bonus of laptop tunability.

by **Logan** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:06 pm

EVLGTZ wrote:
Logan wrote:
EVLGTZ wrote:Drifter4ag has LInk EMX but may be upgrading this at the mo?

EP714AGTE is using Linkplus.

EP714AGTE, if your upgrading give me a buz, could be keen to get another off you

err he aint upgrading

err, my bad, I meant to say Drifter4ag, wouldnt mind another old EMX...
sorry..

by **dodgy** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:53 pm

im gonna use megasquirt, its cheap, diy, and self programmable.
already got it going with the simulator, just gota finish the engine and wire it up. you buy the chip pre-programmed, so tuning is all thats needed. free downloadable software means i can do it from my own laptop for free.
Karl Skewes article is what got me interested, just read about and it shouldnt cost anymore than $500 all up.

by **Drifter4ag** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:40 pm

true ...oh well ..if you see a controller for sale and you dont wanna buy it gimme an email... my emx is mean .. i get wicked economy and huge power on stock motors. EMX is great for its time. Im only using mine to controll fuel but its enough for me

by **Stu-** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:16 pm

Logan wrote:err, my bad, I meant to say Drifter4ag, wouldnt mind another old EMX...
sorry..

No worries

by **suberimakuri** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:19 pm

yeap, EMX gets results for drifter4ag.
Megasquirt for me.
Might even update the article in another week or two...

Everyone around me goes Links, so if I didn't have a MS, I'd have a link cos the support is there.

by **Dori_85** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:54 pm

assuming you know how to tune then?

no i dont know how but im sure it cant be hard to learn. my boss learnt and he aint the smartest cookie if u know what i mean :lol:

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