ANOTHER HILUX CONVERSION

[rcook_nz]

hay i was just wondering if when doin a hilux conversion if it is easier or harder if u start out with either petrol or desiel motor
im think of putting a 1g gze in to a hilux and have found a good candidate for the conversion but its desiel so will this pose any problems at all?

[LowRydr]

better starting with petrol that way u dont need to replace the fule tank or lines etc, but u may hav to anyway depending.

[rcook_nz]

so what exactly does need to be changed over for petrol are we talking anything major here and any major costs?

[UTERUS]

Hey im thinking about doing the same thing with a 2wd hilux about 85-89 year one. Aparently they fit in no trouble apart from using an adaptor from g'box to motor? Also does anyone know what 'box the hilux uses, like will it cope with the 1g-gze?

Cheers, Simon.

[rcook_nz]

yeah u can use the stardard hilux box with custom bellhousing and adaptor plate but you end up with some crazy gearing so best bet is to use a supra box of the same vintage as the 1ggze or newer
and if ur using a diesel hilux to start off then the gearing of there gear box is a bit dodgy
so basically get yourself a supra box

[Rollux]

Quest 4 were using a V6 Surf box in there 1UZ powered beasty. The V6 box is a lot beefier and has a better ratio spread than the diesels

[UTERUS]

It would just be easier to not piss around with another box, and to keep costs downish. Is the gearing too high in the petrol hilux?

[rcook_nz]

you can use the standard box just the gearing is gona be funny i mean a hilux box aint built for speed i can remember what exactly happens but its something like $&#$% all power at the top end or just goes quick and revs $&#$% hard in 1st and 2nd im not sure exactly

[rcook_nz]

anyway to sum it up i would nt use the diesel box but id use the petrol box with a view to changing to a supra box in the future

[Rollux]

Is your Hilux 4WD?
If so, a V6 Surf box will bolt up to everything else, just rememer to get the transfer box with it. If it's 2wd, take the sandwich plate out of a V6 box with all the gearset in it and stick it into the 2wd diesel housing.
BTW, the diesel box isn't too bad, I had one behind my V8, and I broke heaps of axles, but never the box. But it might be a bit tall for a 1G, the V8 had enough torque (468Nm@2700rpm) to mask the high gearing!

[rcook_nz]

nah mines not a 4x4 im doin the 2wd version probabley will just go with a supra box or i might look in to the v6 box if i can get some more info on it
yeah i think the diesel box is a bit to tall for the 1g to

[rcook_nz]

you have got my attention now im wondering bout that v6 box any ideas if it would go ith the 1g and what sorta work would be involve using it instead of a supra box

[LowRydr]

u cant lower a 4x4 hilux cos on the way the springs sit in them, any way why wud anyone want a 4x4 hilux 2wd rules the world DRIFT!

[Shady_Dan]

Quest 4 were using a V6 Surf box in there 1UZ powered beasty. The V6 box is a lot beefier and has a better ratio spread than the diesels

Was that before or after the 6 speed supra box they put in there ( I assume ur talking about the GRND0 ute here...), my knowledge is a little rusty here, but from memory didnt it used to be an auto that they used to tow their drag starlet with till they decided to do the air bagging, drop the lexus 1UZ in it and new gearbox? like i said if im wrong so be it, but i just thought they were using a supra box...

[UTERUS]

I'm going to be using a 85-89 2wd petrol xtra or double cab hilux. I can't understand why the gearing is wrong, maybe its too short??


Simon.

[rcook_nz]

if the gearing was to short it would be sweet the problem is there to long from what i have heard save your self the troubles and get a supra box
when it comes to a engine conversion you only wanna do it once and the right way 1st time would help
and no matter what happens it aint gona be cheap
how much are you budgeting excluding the price of the ute cause there about a million hidden costs i bet you havent even thought of like the sump of the 1g has to be modified and the transmission tunnel need widened for a supra box and then theres brakes mounts wiring and shit load of other things

[Rollux]

Quest 4 were using a V6 Surf box in there 1UZ powered beasty. The V6 box is a lot beefier and has a better ratio spread than the diesels

Was that before or after the 6 speed supra box they put in there ( I assume ur talking about the GRND0 ute here...), my knowledge is a little rusty here, but from memory didnt it used to be an auto that they used to tow their drag starlet with till they decided to do the air bagging, drop the lexus 1UZ in it and new gearbox? like i said if im wrong so be it, but i just thought they were using a supra box...

I was talking to Kyle(?) at a drag meet and asked what they were using for a box and the like cause my V6 had just blown the head gaskets, and I was thinking about a 1UZ. He said it was the same box as what I had, bolted up with an adaptor plate they made and it was a simple conversion really. I was tempted to do it myself, but chickened out, cause I'd been down that road b4 and got burnt! I don't know how long it was in there, I didn't know much about it really, I don't read NZPC, and I didn't know they had/have a 6 speed in it either.
So I ASSUMED they were using a Surf box, but it might be out of anything really.

[Rollux]

you have got my attention now im wondering bout that v6 box any ideas if it would go ith the 1g and what sorta work would be involve using it instead of a supra box

I don't think there is much difference between a supra and a hilux V6 box. The main differences will be bellhousing and tail housing. I could be wrong here, tho. But an example, Nissan Skylines (2wd) and Nissan Navaras use the exact same box, just with different bellhousings, and a diff tail housing 4 the 4wd navaras. It makes sense economically to use the same internals where possible.
BTW, if the gears are too high, try a different diff nugget. There are plenty of ratios for the Hiluxes.

[tonymiller]

hay i was just wondering if when doin a hilux conversion if it is easier or harder if u start out with either petrol or desiel motor
im think of putting a 1g gze in to a hilux and have found a good candidate for the conversion but its desiel so will this pose any problems at all?

I have got the Lexus V8 hooked up to a W58 supra box in my car which is ok because just running standard at the mo(bolting on eight throttle body manifolds next week which could change things though).

Damian at MC racing 0274 757 704 has done heaps of these mods and instllations . Also runs a rallycar (lexus V8 powered of course), this is around 450 hp with a modified supra box.

[MRV8]

I converted my old diesel hilux and put in a 1uz. The old box was too short in the legs, and way to weak. Now have the surf box too and the gearing is better and the box way stronger. You dont need to replace the tank, I just pulled mine out, cleaned it and filled it with fuel, changed the hoses to efi fuel hose and an inline high pressure pump.