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Postby phatman3801 » Fri May 28, 2004 7:48 pm

hey i have asked about which springs a should put in my levin ae111(non s/s) but have had vry mixed opoins! i want lower it 2 45-50mm so wot would b the be the best brand of springs to lower it that much and not be tooo expensive?i dnt wanna be ne higher than a 40-45mm drop so only want wot u recomend that will be at that drop. i have herd dnt go 4 kings at all, ne reason y not? ne help would b awsome coz i cant decide on wot to get and its realll annoying! lol cheerz
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Postby FLAWLES » Sat May 29, 2004 10:27 am

i have all was used lovels i reckon they are a freekin good spring even no i have got k/springs :cry: i realy do not no if it will drop 30 to 50mm u mite have to go coil overs just a punt
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Postby AE85.6 » Sat May 29, 2004 11:50 am

could try jamex ? i think they have a 35-40mm kit ? but 45-50mm prob asking a bit much, but that much and you would have to buy new shortened shox or get your existing ones shortened to keep springs tight and captive otherwise no wof for you
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Postby O2EAZY » Sat May 29, 2004 8:53 pm

well i no this is a different car but my mate got a 60mm lowerin kit for a mazda famila at m&t!
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Postby L8TR » Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:12 pm

I would ring or go and see your local toyota dealer
and see how much a TRD spring kit is (you will be surprized how cheap$$)
if there is one that fits
they can ask how low they drop as well.
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Postby lost » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:55 am

Theres been a thread bout this recently, give TRD Man a pm on these forums, he'll be able to give ya any info you need on the TRD stuff.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:34 am

i can supply TRD springs. $430inc gst a set. typically lower your car 35mm
see here:

http://www.toyota-trd.com/en/strt/s_lowsprng.html

also have a look around here:

http://www.toyota-trd.com/en/index.html

for other springs choices and other TRD parts
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Postby Dr-X » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:10 pm

there's nothing wrong with kings, they're damn good springs. People who tell you to stay away are just idiots who know nothing, but want to sound like they know everything. Kings are as good as any. Consider also that they're the most popular spring used in professional racing (throughout NZ and aus anyway)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:14 pm

Consider also that they're the most popular spring used in professional racing (throughout NZ and aus anyway)


can you prove that?
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Postby www.mods.co.nz » Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:53 pm

Hi, I can do Jamex Progressive rate super low springs 45- 50mm lowering and they will keep your springs captive for WOF.
Full set of 4 springs @ $350

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Postby TRD Man » Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:21 pm

Lets be clear. Phatman wants to drop his car 40 - 50mm. TRD do not offer a road spring that will go that low. In fact their stated measurement is 20 - 30mm only. Not 35mm.
TRD do a large number of race springs which, when used with race shock absorbers, will lower the car considerably more. These will likely be too stiff for everyday street use. And, if used with the standard height shock absorbers, will not be held captive & therefore will not be warrantable.

For your car to remain 'streetable' you probably need a progressive rate spring to drop it this low.

Despite what's been written elsewhere on this forum, TRD do not produce a progressive rate spring in 'practice'.
Their products are made to perform specific tasks without compromise.
In case of springs they come in set lengths & rates matched to their range of shock absorbers which are designed for specific purposes.

As always, if you want the correct advice talk to the NZ TRD Agent. I'm always happy to share 30 years of experience with you & offer the very best deal.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:43 pm

thats correct 25-30mm, hard when to keep up when im so busy!

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Postby TRD Man » Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:22 pm

luckily no!
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:23 pm

what do you mean no? toyota sells TRD parts. simple as that.
so where can you buy TRD parts from? why toyota of course!
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Postby Helious » Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:27 pm

TRD Man wrote:Their products are made to perform specific tasks without compromise.
In case of springs they come in set lengths & rates matched to their range of shock absorbers which are designed for specific purposes.


mmm I like your speil.. makes you sound like a professional :p

I drive a AE-82 FXGT with a 4AG-ZE in it.. I currently have 'Super Low Kings' with 'Monroe GT GAS' shocks... I'm finding this setup not to be as good as I anticipated... basically, when my 110kg friend rides shotgun, the car, depending on the bump with bottom out rather badly, also, turning corners, i find that there is quite a bit of body roll..

What do you recommend a good setup so that I can eliminate as much body roll as possible?? I realise my car has a shorter wheelbase than say, a levin~ but I do think my current setup can be improved.. I dont want the car any lower (currently about 1-2cm's off the top of the tyre) I just want the car to be stiffer.. In my opinion, the stiffer the better (depending on the road, but you know what i'm saying)

Any info appreciated mate :)
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Postby THA SHZ » Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:48 pm

Helious wrote:
TRD Man wrote:Their products are made to perform specific tasks without compromise.
In case of springs they come in set lengths & rates matched to their range of shock absorbers which are designed for specific purposes.


mmm I like your speil.. makes you sound like a professional :p

I drive a AE-82 FXGT with a 4AG-ZE in it.. I currently have 'Super Low Kings' with 'Monroe GT GAS' shocks... I'm finding this setup not to be as good as I anticipated... basically, when my 110kg friend rides shotgun, the car, depending on the bump with bottom out rather badly, also, turning corners, i find that there is quite a bit of body roll..

What do you recommend a good setup so that I can eliminate as much body roll as possible?? I realise my car has a shorter wheelbase than say, a levin~ but I do think my current setup can be improved.. I dont want the car any lower (currently about 1-2cm's off the top of the tyre) I just want the car to be stiffer.. In my opinion, the stiffer the better (depending on the road, but you know what i'm saying)

Change your shocks dude i also own a AE-82 fxgt and it has king springs as well but the difference is i have koni shocks in the front and kybs in the rear tht will make the stiffer ride as konis are adjustable damper shocks
u could also get nolathane bushes let me knw if you would like these things i can get them for u :D

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Postby TRD Man » Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:09 pm

Thankyou Helious, we try to be professional. As NZ's TRD Agent we certainly like to sell TRD product but we don't try to be something that we're not.

In order to improve on your present set-up we need to know exactly where it's at right now. I'm not familar with either the KIng Super Lows or the Monroe shocks you've got installed. And we don't know how high, or low, you are.
The agents for them should be able to give you the specs and suggest improvements. If they can't help with product but can advise your existing specs, we may be able to find something for you.
Regarding your body roll, you would likely benefit from a stiffer stabiliser bar. Your std one's probably a bit sad by now anyway.
TRD didn't make a stabiliser for street use for this model & they haven't made the race item for some years.
Whether Whiteline or anybody else make one for this model I'm unsure.
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Postby Dr-X » Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:21 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
Consider also that they're the most popular spring used in professional racing (throughout NZ and aus anyway)


can you prove that?

I watch A LOT of motorsport, and i can tell you without a doubt, that more professional race teams use kings than any other spring.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:07 pm

and i can tell you without a doubt, that more professional race teams use kings than any other spring.


again... can you prove it?

whiteline do ones to suit the ae82 i can supply if you want.

As NZ's TRD Agent


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ONE of nzs TRD agents
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Postby sxe10 » Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:18 am

As a frequent Toyspeed visitor and now a new member I'm getting annoyed reading Revhead's constant bickering in other peoples threads.

I visited the Offical Japanese TRD website and it lists Toyota New Zealand and Sollitt Trading Company as official New Zealand distributors.

Nowhere does it say Baywater Toyota.

I understand having a Toyota dealership permits you to get TRD product however personally I would buy from someone who specialises in the product I want.
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