Ep82 4fte 2 4gate?

[Linz]

i wana put a 20v turbo into my ep82 starlet has it eva been done before?
does any1 have any advice on wot 2 do or wot parts ill need or any otha sugestions wod b good?

[Shady_Dan]

yeah, the 20v's do fit quite nicely, but being a different engine, it will need custom mounts made up, and ull need all the hardware from the engine (wiring loom, computer (if your running a 20v turbo ull need an a/m computer anyway), and if u can the actual 20v mounts so u can mould them to fit the engine bay).

Grab the 20v levin brakes as well as i dont think the ep series discs are up to the task.

Also take into account that all this will need certification, as ur running an engine thats more than a 20% increase in cc rating than the original. (think thats how it goes, but ull need a cert regardless).

If your ep starlet is a non turbo, why not source the GT starlet turbo motor? not bad for what they are and can get decent power ratings out of them with a bit of work, might be a more viable option.

Also, u may need to upgrade the gearbox to a 20v one as well, dont know how much work thats gonna be to fit, as i dont know if the bellhousings and mounts would be different or not. Using the ep gearbox could be done, but i think ur ratios would be all wrong for the engine.

hope this helps...

[Twolitre]

A 4AGTE would give a nice increase in torque in a little starlet but have you considered modifying the original 4EFTE? I personally beleive that are very under-rated engines. Would be alot cheaper too.

[diss7]

yeah, the 20v's do fit quite nicely, ...

No they dont. Go get a ruler and you'll see that the chassis rails are too close to fit any 4age engine. Expensive conversion, for half the money you could have your 4efte spinning up 3rd gear and doing 13s

[AceSniper]

gt starlet uses the same g-box as the 20v (c56 with lsd)

[Stu-]

GT Starlet Gearbox = c52-522 (Non LSD) or c52-523 (LSD)

[Linz]

cheers guys the reason i ask is if u can remember back nzpc mag featured 2 ep82 starlets 1 wif a 4agze and the otha wif a 4e-fte mine has a 4e-fte motor and a c52-522 trans i want a c52523 trans but i cnt find 1 any help there?
ive just been told lots of horror stories about modding a 4e-fte motor thats why im looking around at otha opions any1 wif advice on how 2 do a 4e-fte right wod b awsum cheers

[krad]

www.starletcentral.co.nz
starlet.bodykit.co.nz
autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/gtstarlet/

Check out these sites for info etc. I don't think moding a 4EFTE is hard? Just add bolt-ons pretty much . Depends how much you want out of them.
I've heard of people running 25psi on port and polished internals + decompression gasket, uprated fuel, T3 turbs, no forgies etc etc.

[Rollux]

4EFTE is a bloody strong wee motor, just make sure you give it enough go go juice, they tend to run a bit lean when you bolt big turbos on and run a bit of boost.
As for the box with a factory LSD, rarer than rocking horse sh*t, I looked for months when I had mine. I suggest you buy a TRD/Quaife unit, as they are a clutch type, not a viscous unit.
Another thing you can do with the 4E, grab a 5E bottom end, put your 4E pistons in, bolt on the 4E head and a bigger turbo, and you've got a 1500 that kick arse and still looks like the 1300. Don't forget the fuel pump & injectors!

[krad]

Whats wrong with a TRD viscous unit LSD?
I thought were the better choice?

[QikStarlie]

http://forums.starletcentral.co.nz/viewtopic.php?t=511

sift thru the spam on that post.. should help you a bit
the people telling you the horror stories, are probably also the ones who wind the boost up and dont add extra fueling. then complain coz they are weak motors when the ring lands crack a few days later...
ive only cracked 1 set of ring lands (because of dodgy head gasket) in over 20'ks running 16psi on a t25(dead) & 18psi on a t3

oh and i run the trd helical lsd, works mint

[Rollux]

Whats wrong with a TRD viscous unit LSD?
I thought were the better choice?

Well, on a RWD at least, they don't work any where near as well. Eg, the viscous LSD transfers about 20% of power to the wheel with the most traction, whereas a clutch type, depending on setup, will transfer about 40%. The downside is a clutch type wears out, whereas a viscous is sealed and works similar to a viscous fan and is almost maintenance free. A clutch setup will get a close to 50/50 distribution in a straight line, so better for drags, but means more power understeer on corners.
But hey, a viscous is still better than open!!

[Linz]

mint where do you get a trd lsd from?
im stickin wif the 4e-fte motor i just got a s5 rx-7 ic which im gonna use 4 a f/m and im high flowing the std turbo and c wot happens any1 got any ideas of wot i shod do afta that?

[AXNGRL]

depends on how much power you want & what you want to use the car for, ie, drags at Meremere or round the track at Manfield.... Before you increase the boost, you will need to consider more fuel, a GTX or a MR2 turbo fuel pump will do the trick without having to go to upscale... relocate your air filter so that it comes directly off your turbo, then you've finished sorting out your incoming air. Then its up to you... suspension, more boost = bigger turbo, different manifold (standard ones are very weak on a starlet) I take it you have done the exhaust already?