HOW 2 DRIVE WITH A B-BUTTON CLUTCH

[FLAWLES]

does any1 here have any tips on how to drive a car with a brass button clutch
as i do not want 2 ride it or dump the clutch????

also does any1 here have one does the clutch feel soft is this normal

any help would be nice

[JasonZE]

Pedal feel depends on what cover you used, but most will be soft.
The best way for round town driving I found was use very low revs and release the cluch quite fast(not dumping) and apply revs quickly took a bit of practice but I got used to it and did 60,000km on the plate.
At what point in the pedal travel does you r clutch engage if near the top as mine was I adjusted the pedal pushrod and stopper to get it down low as you only need a few inches of travel with the brass plate, the higher the pedal engages you seem to ride it as your foot comes off the floor giving less control (just what i found)
It all comes down to practice and adjustment.

[10k 20v]

i have found the valeo presure plates to soft for cetain toyotas in the past.
in some cases to soft for the pedal to come back up

[JasonZE]

As far as I'm concerned VALEO is good for Italian crap cars and nothing else,
For toyota use Genuine, Daikin, or some suppliers have ASCO which is the same as genuine.
Most new clutches have very light pedals but that doesnt mean poor clamping pressure as it comes down to the design a heavy pedal just wears out the pedal and hydraulics not to mention the release fork and your LEG

[Al]

Ive just clicked over a very fun 1000kms of wearing in my TRD 3 puck button clutch, best way is just to rev it and let go, like 1500rpm but thats on a pretty torquey 3s. And yeah try not to ride it from what ive been told it can warp the plate and one puck will grab before the rest

[Monsterbishi]

does any1 here have any tips on how to drive a car with a brass button clutch as i do not want 2 ride it or dump the clutch????
also does any1 here have one does the clutch feel soft is this normal
any help would be nice

I've had a Daiken/Exedy 4 puck clutch in my VR4 for the last 2 years, and it's a learning curve, you must not slip the clutch, but you don't have to dump it.

There's a knack to it, getting the balance of how quickly you let off the clutch and how high to take the revs so it doesn't jerk like a mini-launch or bog and jackrabbit.

Reversing is also a different skill, instead of riding the clutch to control how quickly you reverse, you've got to pulse the clutch pedal.

[Al]

Yeah when reversing you basically have to rev, let out clutch and as soon as it grabs put your foot back down on the clutch, dumping the clutch in reverse is a bit dogdy as i have found out

[Rollux]

Yeah when reversing you basically have to rev, let out clutch and as soon as it grabs put your foot back down on the clutch, dumping the clutch in reverse is a bit dogdy as i have found out

Got Tail lights?

[FLAWLES]

At what point in the pedal travel does you r clutch engage if near the top as mine was I adjusted the pedal pushrod and stopper to get it down low as you only need a few inches of travel with the brass plate, the higher the pedal engages you seem to ride it as your foot comes off the floor giving less control (just what i found)
It all comes down to practice and adjustment.

the ae101 clutch control are hydraulic can you still adjus these how??
by what bleeding them???
cant remember what type of p=plate it is but it is a funny purple colour
and yea it does grap when the peadel travel is high


thanks for the help

[10k 20v]

VALEO pressure plates have the same clamp but change the pivot point for the fingers giving you a lighter pedal. Some toyotas have springs to assist with depresing the clutch, like on 20v's, gtz's, turbo mr2's etc etc.
What happens is if you use a valeo presure plate it dosen't leave enough force to fight the spring giving you a softer pedal and in some cases like in my car the pedal dosne't even come back up. It also happened in a camry we did a clutch on and all we could do to cure it was fit a genuine clutch.
I use daiken which i find fine. (who ususally make the genuine clutch for toyota anyway)
You can remove the spring, it does sort of fix it but the pedal feels crap.
This only applies to valeo pressure plates tho.
A local clutch shop has stopped stocking valeo for toyotas for that very reason.

The purple pressure plate is a trademark for exedy's range of high perfomance pressure plates. My experiance with those usaully gives a f#%$&*g hard pedal

[Monsterbishi]

At what point in the pedal travel does you r clutch engage if near the top as mine was I adjusted the pedal pushrod and stopper to get it down low as you only need a few inches of travel with the brass plate, the higher the pedal engages you seem to ride it as your foot comes off the floor giving less control (just what i found)
It all comes down to practice and adjustment.

the ae101 clutch control are hydraulic can you still adjus these how??
by what bleeding them???
cant remember what type of p=plate it is but it is a funny purple colour
and yea it does grap when the peadel travel is high
thanks for the help

as a rule, if the plates purple, it'll have quite a bit of clamping pressure, I forget who makes the particular plates, exedy extreme maybe?

At any rate, have a look at the clutch pedal assembly in the footwell, you'll notice there's a threaded rod running through the firewall, by adjusting it's length, you adjust the pedal throw...

[matt dunn]

Ive just clicked over a very fun 1000kms of wearing in my TRD 3 puck button clutch, best way is just to rev it and let go, like 1500rpm but thats on a pretty torquey 3s. And yeah try not to ride it from what ive been told it can warp the plate and one puck will grab before the rest

I have some pics of what happens to a puck type clutch if your two rough on it if someone can host them. Or if your keen I can email to whoever. Ripped the buttons right off the plate.
Out of my 20V turbo DX. Had to happen at the $ & R Champs diddn't it.

Matt

[JasonZE]

As JiNX said you look under the dash and find the rod that goes from the pedal to the clutch master cylinder then undo the 12mm lock not on the rod and wind the rod into the fork that connects to the pedal thus shortening the rod and lowering the pedal.
You will see a larger stopper bolt and lock nut which limits how far the pedal comes up I adjust it down so that you still get the small amout of free play at the top of the pedal rather than the cylinfer limiting the pedal stroke.
It takes a bit of fiddling around but I found it was well worth it. For a daily drive car you want it the best you can get it.
Good luck

[Mr Revhead]

Out of my 20V turbo DX. Had to happen at the $ & R Champs diddn't it

i can still remember the body language coming outta that car

[FLAWLES]

so basicly bleeding the line will do nothing???? yes no

i found the rod adjus nice one poeple will adjus it on sat

as for the p-plate i got it from waikato clutch and brake from tony i have no idea what type it is all i now is that it is purple

[10k 20v]

if it's from tony it will certainally be and exedy extreme pressure plate.
They are pretty good so you should have no probs with it

[JasonZE]

Bleeding the clutch will do very little unless for some reason there is air in the system but It certainly doesnt hurt to get the old fluid out and new stuff in there as it helps prvent the cylinders rusting and leaking.

[FLAWLES]

if it's from tony it will certainally be and exedy extreme pressure plate.
They are pretty good so you should have no probs with it

extreme pressure??? cant be the pedal feels so soft??

[Al]

matt dunns clutch

[Mr Revhead]

nice!!
worst thing about it was the broken teeth jammed the flywheel.... motor no go round....