3tgteu into a rolla with a 3t in it already.

[mister two]

hi just lookin for info on putting a 3tgteu into my ke26 rolla, now that the interior is almost finished.
dont know much about this engine.
it already has a 3t in it so it should all bolt up to the mounts that are in it?
it has a 5speed in it, but as the conversion was done before i got it i dont know what the box is (any guess')
obviously i need to do the brakes at the same time...
what should i do there?
how much would the engine cost roughly.
if it would all cost a fair bit, i might just put a 12a in it (sooner or later)
any body know how much it would cost to do the whole conversion, assuming that i did none of the work myself.

cheers

[badidas]

hey bro your gearbox is most likely a w55 engine will bolt straight up to existing mounts give yems an email as hes done a ke30 3tgte and has various spare bits
engine and loom will set ya back $1200 or there abouts
140kw 160hp
i sold my 3t for $800 but that was mates rates ay and i needed the $$

your better off with 3tgte in the long run because its already set up for it

check out my site for sum info www.freewebs.com/corolla_information/

[dohca]

uhhh
his gearbox is most likly a t-50 behind a 3t.

[badidas]

why u say that dude ? is the w55 hard to fit in the ke30 chassis or something ?

[dohca]

hmmm
because every 3t with a 5spd i have worked on or owned has been a t-50

generally w55's come on 3tgteu some also come with t-50s as well

[wde_bdy]

hey bro your gearbox is most likely a w55 engine will bolt straight up to existing mounts give yems an email as hes done a ke30 3tgte and has various spare bits
engine and loom will set ya back $1200 or there abouts
140kw 160hp
i sold my 3t for $800 but that was mates rates ay and i needed the $$

your better off with 3tgte in the long run because its already set up for it

check out my site for sum info www.freewebs.com/corolla_information/

Stop wasting peoples time dude.

If you have a 3T it will most likely have a T50 attached to it. For a reliable conversion you will need a W55/56/57/58 to go with the 3T-GTEU. The gearbox isn't hard to find but the bellhousing is, make sure you get it with the motor.
This site shows the conversion into a KE25/TE27 and illustrates the amount of work involved to make it fit.
http://www.netwiz.net/~tcar/c74sr5.html
As to if it will bolt in, you need to determine if your crossmember was modified to suit the engine, or if the engine mounts were moded. If the engine mounts were moded rather than the crossmember, these mounts will bolt to the 3T-GTE but won't fit the oil drain for the turbo, or the support for the inlet manifold. If the crossmember was moded then it will most likely be a bolt in fit subject to firewall clearance. The gearbox tunnel is likely to need a little work to fit the box and the shifter is likely to be in the wrong place.
With the motor, be aware whatever you get will be 20 years old. It may be better (depending on what your goals are) to get a shagged motor and rebuild it with forgies, injectors, computer and a big turbo. Otherwise make sure you get whatever you buy checked out properly and prefereably test drive it. Getting a complete car always makes the conversion easier but can cost more.

Callum

[mister two]

cheers guys
is there any easy way to find out what the box is? is it stamped into it anywhere like the engine?
the main thing that concerns me is the age of the engine. i would hate to spend heaps of cash and find that it will be an ongoing ordeal, when i had a reasonably good and faster than standard engine anyway.
also brakes are of concern, mainly because they are shit.
i have bleed them and they are still shit, so i would need a better set up.

[badidas]

[/quote]Stop wasting peoples time dude.

take a chill pill i was offering my opinion on the subject as i have done a 3tgte ke70 recently isnt that the whole point in asking a question to get advice and different opinions

peace

[wde_bdy]

Information is only worthwhile if it is ACCURATE!!!!

[badidas]

Information is only worthwhile if it is ACCURATE!!!!

any better

dont know much about this engine.

The 3T-GTEU is a 1770cc, 4 cylinder, twin spark, twin cam turbo engine. With stock 7psi boost they produce 160 hp. With intake and exhaust mods it has around 170hp. The stock CT20 turbo has a limit of around 210hp, older version (1982) had a non water cooled CT20 turbo, while newer engines had a water cooled CT20. Injectors also limit the power to around 200hp. Both turbo and injectors need upgrading for more hp. Denso RED injectors as used in Mazda 13B Turbo engines fit and offer enough flow for ~330hp.


TURBO ct20 is crud upgrade to a 60-Trim T3 from a 3 litre Nissan V6 engine, it's good for around 310 hp on a 3t, the compressor is alot larger than the standard ct20 . The turbo also had to be rotated so the oil return line would point downwards, as the oil has to leave the turbo by gravity,

it already has a 3t in it so it should all bolt up to the mounts that are in it?

already been covered but heres pics of 3t - k seies x member being fabricated

it has a 5speed in it, but as the conversion was done before i got it i dont know what the box is (any guess')

The T50 gearbox is the same length as a K40 gearbox, and same shaft spline. The T50 gearbox uses different holes in the chassis further back,
so yeah the guy who was being a prat is probably right and for your 3t conversion you would be better to upgrade gearboxes to a w5 but its no nessasary

obviously i need to do the brakes at the same time...
what should i do there?

i went ta63 struts and breaks with ke springs and top hats to fit in the strut towers kp60 starlet tye rod ends and rose jointed lower arms to combat camber you might need to do a diff swap if it hasnt already been done, i had a corona diff converted to four link set up (this is in a ke70 tho so im unsure if its similar but should give you an idea )

how much would the engine cost roughly.
if it would all cost a fair bit, i might just put a 12a in it (sooner or later)
any body know how much it would cost to do the whole conversion, assuming that i did none of the work myself.

set aside 5 grand and you wont have much change left but youl have one hell of a car or you could half that ifyou didall the labour yourself which isnt that hard with time andtools

heres some other things that havent been mentioned
and need to be taken into concideration

fuel lines which need to be upgraded from the standard 1/4" if some serious horespower is to be extracted from the engine. (i.e more than ~180hp)
a return line plumbed in a swerl pot to stop leaning out around corners

computer wise if you get your engine with loom and original Computer you can use it, with very good results. 310hp and more is possible to get out of the 3T-GTEU engine using the original computer

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[badidas]

Information is only worthwhile if it is ACCURATE!!!!

any better

dont know much about this engine.

The 3T-GTEU is a 1770cc, 4 cylinder, twin spark, twin cam turbo engine. With stock 7psi boost they produce 160 hp. With intake and exhaust mods it has around 170hp. The stock CT20 turbo has a limit of around 210hp, older version (1982) had a non water cooled CT20 turbo, while newer engines had a water cooled CT20. Injectors also limit the power to around 200hp. Both turbo and injectors need upgrading for more hp. Denso RED injectors as used in Mazda 13B Turbo engines fit and offer enough flow for ~330hp.


TURBO ct20 is crud upgrade to a 60-Trim T3 from a 3 litre Nissan V6 engine, it's good for around 310 hp on a 3t, the compressor is alot larger than the standard ct20 . The turbo also had to be rotated so the oil return line would point downwards, as the oil has to leave the turbo by gravity,

it already has a 3t in it so it should all bolt up to the mounts that are in it?

already been covered but heres pics of 3t - k seies x member being fabricated

it has a 5speed in it, but as the conversion was done before i got it i dont know what the box is (any guess')

The T50 gearbox is the same length as a K40 gearbox, and same shaft spline. The T50 gearbox uses different holes in the chassis further back,
so yeah the guy who was being a prat is probably right and for your 3t conversion you would be better to upgrade gearboxes to a w5 but its no nessasary

obviously i need to do the brakes at the same time...
what should i do there?

i went ta63 struts and breaks with ke springs and top hats to fit in the strut towers kp60 starlet tye rod ends and rose jointed lower arms to combat camber you might need to do a diff swap if it hasnt already been done, i had a corona diff converted to four link set up (this is in a ke70 tho so im unsure if its similar but should give you an idea )

how much would the engine cost roughly.
if it would all cost a fair bit, i might just put a 12a in it (sooner or later)
any body know how much it would cost to do the whole conversion, assuming that i did none of the work myself.

set aside 5 grand and you wont have much change left but youl have one hell of a car or you could half that ifyou didall the labour yourself which isnt that hard with time andtools

heres some other things that havent been mentioned
and need to be taken into concideration

fuel lines which need to be upgraded from the standard 1/4" if some serious horespower is to be extracted from the engine. (i.e more than ~180hp)
a return line plumbed in a swerl pot to stop leaning out around corners

computer wise if you get your engine with loom and original Computer you can use it, with very good results. 310hp and more is possible to get out of the 3T-GTEU engine using the original computer

[wde_bdy]

I'm not going to get into a fight over this but your first post was very WRONG. With only a 3T he is VERY unlikey to have a W55. Depending on how the motor was mounted and what is came from a bolt in swap is quite unlikely. So he listens to you, buys a motor and finds it doesn't fit he is stuffed. Not your problem though is it????

Callum

[mister two]

okay so we agree that the box is most likely to be a t-50.

thank you badidas for all the indepth help. i will start saving.
i would like to do alot of the work myself, but i am not a mechanic, therefore i only have basic knowledge, but i think that i could do some of it, as alot of it is just commonsence, but i think that i would leave the hard stuff to the experts.

it would be one hell of a fun car to drive and blow away unsuspecting people in!!!

thanks all!!

[Logan]

I have a ke25 with a 3tgteu and belive me, its one hell of a ride!!!!

[badidas]

yeah i thought it would have a w55 but yeah i was wrong
so yea sorry

peace

[mister two]

no worries, cheers for the help

[badidas]

have you seen my add ? viewtopic.php?t=20062

[mister two]

cheers dude i will keep that in mind.
good stuff

[suberimakuri]

injectors don't limit to 200hp.