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by **Muzzie** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:06 pm

Just thought i'd ask, it's not noisy like a chain might be because it's just been rebuilt, dad had an 84 that had a chain, but on the rebuild receipts it says things like 'idler arm' and such things like that - suggesting maybe it has a cambelt.

Hope not - i'd prefer a chain. Anybody know? Mr Revhead maybe?

by **Mr Revhead** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:59 pm

they have a chain, but chains still have tensioners.

dunno what they mean by idler arm.. sounds more like a suspension part to me....

by **Muzzie** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:21 pm

Thats why I wasn't sure. I shud go dig out the receipt and see exactly what it says.

by **Mr Revhead** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:25 pm

yeah, i detect possible dodgy mechanic!

by **Muzzie** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:59 pm

Ok, heres the receipt basically. What they did, cost of some things blah blah.

Machining

Dismantle - Clean & Inspect
Cylinders - Rebore and Hone
Conrods - Check & Retunnel Rod Tunnels
Remove Pressfit Pins, Align & Reassemble Rods/Pistons
Main Bearings - Check, Fit BRG, Line/Bore Tunnels
Camshaft Bearings - Fit Shells Line/Bore
Crank Grind/Polish - Straighten Crankshaft & Crack Test
Surface Grind - Clylinder Head/manifold & Cylinder Block
Assembly - Final Clean, Fit Shaft, Pistons, Frost Plugs, Timing Cover/Pulley, Flywheel, Sump & Head/Tappets

Dismantle, Clean, Decarb Head
Clean & Resurface - Valve Tips
Reface - Seats/Narrow Seats
Cut/Fit - Valve Seat Inserts
Check/Bore/Fit - Valve Guides/Chamfer
Red Light Crack/Pressure Test - Head/Block Repair Plugs
Lap Valves, Clean, Assemble Head
Oil Pump - Recondition
Rocker Shaft - Dismantle, Clean, Reassemble

Rear Heater Coil Leaking In Van - Bypassed

Replace 12 Heater Hoses Under Van, Source Parts Via Repco/Toyota/Appco & Modify To Suit, Modify Cambelt Tensioners & Idlers Due To Lack Of Parts

Parts Supplied

Timing Belt Kit - $19.34
Idler Bearing - $22.52
idler Bearing - $25.98
Ring Inserts - $36.00
Frost Plugs - $20.01
Oil - $35.00
Oil Filter - $12.40
Lifters - $71.24
Thermostat - $27.27
Sealers/Antifreeze - $35.00
Heli Coils - $5.00
Cam grind - $56.00
Tensioner - $18.74
Radiator - $170.00
Engine Test - $470.58 (looks like test)
Grommet - $11.00
Air Cond - $160.00
A/C Belt - $13.70
*something I cant read writing* - $8.89
Fan Belt - $19.00
Spark Plugs - $16.00
Head Shim - $32.92
Heater hosesx12 - $72.00
Hose Clampsx8 - $16.00

Something like that anyways. Done at 202,767, now has 234,443 on it.

I just wasn't sure about the Cambelt thing.

Carina AA63 · by **kingcorolla** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:00 am

i was sure they had chains too, but on ure list it says they brought a timing belt kit and idler bearings, which confuses me.

then it says they also brought a tensioner........?

maybe they brought a belt n shitt and found out it was a chain!

plus an 'idler arm' is a little arm on a bearing which is linked to ure RHS tierod, which runs in'sync with the 'pitman' arm on ure steering box to keep the steering linkages balanced........that make sense?

by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:48 am

hmmm 3y has these:
timing CHAIN
tensioner

NO idler.. so unless they meant they replaced one of the drive cogs...

Conrods - Check & Retunnel Rod Tunnels

thats a new one to me...... :?:

by **Muzzie** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:03 pm

Word for word from the receipt.

Unforunately it's outta warranty now damnit, coz it's goit a VERY noisy lifter now and when I turn it off after a run, it runs on for ages. Up to a minute - but not proper running, as if its like running backwards on 2 cylinders or something. Coughing and spluttering.

Might ring them anyways and see what they say.

by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:13 pm

sounds like it needs a tune up!

by **Muzzie** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:26 pm

I'd say it needs a new lifter at the very least.

Possibly has wrong heat range plugs in it?

Whats a new lifter (if you can get them indiviually) worth? And what plugs should be in it?

It's just had an oil and filter change. I think it's done about 25,000km on the last batch of oil

Sposed to be done by registered mechanic for mechanical warranty crowd but what they dont know aint gonna hurt them.

by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:52 pm

how far on the oil?????

i really need the model and frame numbers to be exact, but probably $30-50 for a lifter, also those numbers tell me the plugs it takes, toyota are notorius for changing th eplug type month to month!

by **Muzzie** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:16 pm

25,000km.

I did it pretty well as soon as i got it - the oil didnt look all that nice!

I'll get the frame and model numbers later on when the vans easier to get out of the garage - folks mitsi is behind it

by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:58 pm

25k on the same oil are you sure? they didnt just leave the old stiker on did they> id hope thats the case!

by **Muzzie** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:06 pm

Theres the old sticker on the door - sez it was done at 202,000, which was when the motor was rebuilt. I got it at 225, and did it at 227. I'm hoping they just didn't replace the sticker too. Id have thought the owner would keep it serviced after a 5500 dollar rebuild.

Oh well, its got new oil in it now, ill run it through for a few thousand km as a flush and then get decent stuff for it.

Hope it aint damaged the motor in anyway.

Carina AA63 · by **kingcorolla** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:34 am

Muzzie wrote:when I turn it off after a run, it runs on for ages. Up to a minute - but not proper running, as if its like running backwards on 2 cylinders or something. Coughing and spluttering.

dude, u may not know but this is very bad for ure engine.
sounds like the fools that rebuilt ure engine didnt set ure ignition timing, or they forgot to plug in the anti-dieseling solenoid on the carb or sum. Check both of these. could also be wrong plugs as u sed.

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