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Postby Lunchie » Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:04 pm

Hey guys i ve got to do the front cv's in my 1990 gt legacy and im wondering what it should cost?.... i already know i can get the joints for 110 is this a good price? is this all i need to do the job?

If i do buy the parts myself how much should i expect to get them installed? is this the sort of thing i could do myself with basic tools and a jack?

I know its not a toyota but hey its all i could fit into and afford so any help would be great..... :)

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Postby Caveman » Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:22 pm

Try packing it first. See if that solves the problem.
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Postby Lunchie » Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:24 pm

1998 wrote:Try packing it first. See if that solves the problem.


no thx id prefer to just replace them
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Postby snwtoy » Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:38 pm

In my experience if you've never done them before, they're a major pain in the arse. I've rebuilt engines before, had all the tools, manual, instructions etc and I still gave up - ended up just taking the driveshafts out and paying a pro to do them for me. I guess I would have managed if I had someone showing me what to do.
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Postby YeMs » Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:41 pm

that price would b retail? im pretty sure trade they are around $80ish. um, id say a good $200 a side to get them done at a shop. if u know wat ur doing its an easy straight forward job, but i probly wouldnt embark on the journey alone for a first time.
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Postby celica_tommo » Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:42 pm

they're an absolute pain in the arse... in theory they're easy and straight forward but fidly circlips piss me off so much
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Postby rwd_mayhem » Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:34 pm

wouldn't a legacy b way more expensive than a toyota?
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Re: Cv's

Postby Dr-X » Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:58 pm

I dont know what you guys are on about. This is a piss easy job. Just unbolt everything, yank the old ones off, and reverse. When I did the clutch on my Sigma I also did the CV's, with no previous experience. I was surprised how easy it was, and shocked at how much mechanics charge for such a simple job.
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Re: Cv's

Postby vvega » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:10 am

Dr-X wrote:I dont know what you guys are on about. This is a piss easy job. Just unbolt everything, yank the old ones off, and reverse. When I did the clutch on my Sigma I also did the CV's, with no previous experience. I was surprised how easy it was, and shocked at how much mechanics charge for such a simple job.


i thought that 2
ive dont hundreds
then one day i got this suttborn one. so i though i know ill stick the shaft in the vise and wack it off. so i smacked it harder and harder(as you do)
thats was a big mistake,you know how in your aprentaship they say dont hit high tensile steal with a hammer
well i lernt that hard way.a shard flew off and into my leg
it was about 1 cm long and about 5mm wide traved 2cm into my leg and 5 cm up it then inbeded itself into the mussel
i now have a 5-6 cm scar up my leg and no feeling down the right hand side(its cut some nerves in there)
3 mths later its still painfull and shit gives me shit
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morel of the story
wear safty glasses when hitting shit and dont hit ya cv's with a ball pien hammer or simalar make sure its copper/rawhide/nylon

well thats my tail for the year

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Postby Dr-X » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:23 am

8O 8O

I had to take full arm length swings at one of my CV's in a vice. Hitting literally as hard as I could for several minutes before it came off. Man, that looks painful!
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Postby YeMs » Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:11 pm

in theory if it doesnt come off with 3 solid thumps, then the only way ur gunna get it off its by tanning the shit out of it which u shouldnt do..

and also, make sure u get the right CV's count the splines an shit, $&#$% i $&#$% up big time yesterday. stuck a 35 spline cv onto a 32 spline shaft.. fitted in snug as a bug lol, went to drive off an it popped out. got the apparent correct 1 which was a 32 inner cv and like it was only a little bit to small for the shaft. turns out it was a freaky ass nissan type whoo-dacky.

i really dont suggest doing it on your own, u have to make sure the CV is packed properly, make sure it fits properly, make sure u dont break the circlip wen fitting the cv, make sure the circlip is correctly fitted, if u have removed the whole shaft to do the job that wen ur refitting that u dont pinch the axle seal, that your cv ties are done up tight enough to secure the boot so it wont fall off, that every thing is done up tight and fitted properly.
wen u get a mechanic to do a job, your not just paying for the parts. u pay for their labour, this includes years of experience the fact and the peace of mind that the job is done correctly, and if it isnt u can take it right back and tell them to fix it.

and "te71 rolla" what u on about? if u are referring to the price of the CV then no i dont think there is alot of difference. i found partmaster the cheapest, at $60 each, repco went for about $80
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Postby Dr-X » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:20 pm

YeMs wrote:i really dont suggest doing it on your own, u have to make sure the CV is packed properly, make sure it fits properly, make sure u dont break the circlip wen fitting the cv, make sure the circlip is correctly fitted, if u have removed the whole shaft to do the job that wen ur refitting that u dont pinch the axle seal, that your cv ties are done up tight enough to secure the boot so it wont fall off, that every thing is done up tight and fitted properly.


ok, lets go down the list:

CV's packed properly: usually come pre-packed, and pretty simple to do anyway.

Fits properly: Do you think you can tell the difference between the square peg and round peg before you put it in the hole?

Dont break circlip: Cant even figure out how you'd do this

Circlip correctly fitted: If you know what a circlip is (which I hope you do) you'd know why this is just stupid

Dont pinch axle seal: Again, cant figure out how you'd do this

CV Ties done up tight: Can you tighten a screw?


This aint rocket science, guys.
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Postby YeMs » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:42 pm

ok if you really want to go nit picking u dweeb

CV's packed properly: usually come pre-packed, and pretty simple to do anyway <-- not always, infact i rekon 1 out of every 5 or even 10 are pre packed, it all depends on the make/type an were you get it. yeh ok to sum1 like yourself who is obviously a fully qualified professional (mind the sarcasm) it may seem simple, but to sum1 who has never seen let alone dismantled a CV setup this may be a difficult job.

Fits properly: Do you think you can tell the difference between the square peg and round peg before you put it in the hole? <--- as i said before, for the inexperienced you never know, im not talking about me doing this remember

Dont break circlip: Cant even figure out how you'd do this <-- when fitting a new 1 maybe? if it were to small? wen ur putting the new CV on if u caught it on the side?

Circlip correctly fitted: If you know what a circlip is (which I hope you do) you'd know why this is just stupid <--- what if the clip was too big? to small? that would b incorrectly fitted

Dont pinch axle seal: Again, cant figure out how you'd do this <-- pinch the side of it maybe when ur reinstalling the shaft

CV Ties done up tight: Can you tighten a screw? whats that got to do with it? i kno for a fact CV ties dont have any thing to do with a screw..
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Postby Dr-X » Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm

YeMs wrote:CV Ties done up tight: Can you tighten a screw? whats that got to do with it? i kno for a fact CV ties dont have any thing to do with a screw..


Sounds to me you're being a bit too nit picky. My point here was that it's as simple as doing up a screw.

CV joints are never that complex, and the best way to familiarize yourself with a vehicle is through practical experience. What's the worst that can happen, really? I so go for it, and dont let little idiots like yems tell you not to. Save yourself some dosh, educate yourself, have fun, swear like hell when you $&#$% something up, have a beer, and move on. Good times.

Like I said, I did my CV's with very little previous experience, and I found it a breeze.
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Postby Ae92typeX » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:46 am

Dr-X wrote: and the best way to familiarize yourself with a vehicle is through practical experience. What's the worst that can happen, really? I so go for it... Save yourself some dosh, educate yourself, have fun, swear like hell when you f**k something up, have a beer, and move on. Good times.


I'd agree with that, its what being a car enthusiast is all about to me!
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Postby dskd » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:24 am

What's the worst that can happen, really
lots like put it together wrong can be very unsafe
or pull it apart at home and have no clue what ur doing then haveing to pay someone to come to u and fix ur mess
ps Dr-X is right kinda doing it is the only way to fid out how to do anything but if its ur only car and u not shore and u dont have a lot of money to get it fixted if u dont get it right leave it alone and get someone to do it
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Postby Dr-X » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:10 am

Spoken like a true pesimist.
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