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by **bad20v** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:11 pm

Ok, its time for an engine swap for my KP60. The 2k's getting pretty tired and severly lacking in grunt for the upcoming tarmac motorkana series in winter.
I was thinking bout putting in a 4k 1300 engine, standard or worked, and keep in the same racing class. Or maybe setup to the next class 1301 - 1600cc, and install a 4age. Maybe even a 20v like Quibel's got in his KP61.
So with budget of around $1000, I need some advice on what would be my best "bang for a buck" engine, and any advice on where to obtain the parts and accessories required to install it.

Cheers.

by **Jebus** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:33 pm

For a $1000 budget, you dont have many options, I would keep an eye out for someone selling a worked 4/5K as they come along quite frequently.

At the end of the day you most probaly wont have a chance at getting a 4AGE going for a grand. I just sold my worked 5K which dyno'd about the same HP as a 4age 16V for $850. So keep an eye out and something will probaly turn up.

by **bad20v** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:01 pm

The $1000 is just for the engine and installation parts. I will not need to add in labour coz I will be doing all the work myself.

by **wde_bdy** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:07 pm

Yeah, but $1,000 doesn't go far when you try sourcing an A series bellhousing and a K50 won't take that much abuse. Consider a T series engine, same work to put in except no injection to worry about (depending on engine obviously) and much cheaper bellhousings. Weight difference is really not that much.

Callum

by **rollas22** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:35 pm

just my 2cents worth - chuck a 12a rotary in it! will go insanly faster than a 2/3/4/5k engine and not to mention a T-series engine.
A little more work, but a lot more fun and RESPECT

But On club-k there is a 5k engine forsale, so that could be a good idea as well.

by **wde_bdy** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:56 pm

12A puts you in over 2L class, and $1,000 budget would not even get close.

Callum

*My KE70* · by **solberg Fan** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:24 am

rollas22 wrote:just my 2cents worth - chuck a 12a rotary in it!
A little more work, but a lot more fun and RESPECT

Respect? Not in all people. :roll:

BA BA Ba Ba Ba....... *eye starts twitching*

by **bad20v** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:35 pm

Sorry, but even though i have easy access to a 12a rotary, its sitting in my garage, its kinda out of the question in the overall scheme of things.
Pistons only please.

by **fangsport** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:21 pm

anything more than 2 valves per cylinder is excessive!!!!!!!!!!!

4/5K or 2/3T..........fear the pushrod power!!!!

by **Rollux** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:29 pm

SR20DE out of S13/S14.

There was one out of a S14 w/ loom and ECU for $575 last week on trademe.
All alloy, 150hp, 197Nm.

Good Luck

by **fangsport** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:34 pm

Rollux wrote:SR20DE out of S13/S14.

There was one out of a S14 w/ loom and ECU for $575 last week on trademe.
All alloy, 150hp, 197Nm.

Good Luck

problem , how much does the weak-as-piss nissan box go for? or have they decided to build decent gearboxes now? the other issue is that it would bump him into the open class at most events.

by **Rollux** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:11 pm

If you don't want a Nissan box, put something else behind it. Not that hard in a RWD. No idea on a box, only ever brought them with an engine as a conversion kit. I do know of an S15 6speed in good order for $875NZD plus shipping from Oz...

by **_will_** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:39 pm

I'd say get a 4K, and spend the leftover money (around $900) on modding it.
The ol' 4k's have quite a bit of potential!! (for a 1300)

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:46 pm

a little out there, and maybe out of budget depending on what you can do your self..... but how about a 2ag? 2a with 4age head.....

something iv always wanted to try

by **fangsport** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:48 pm

_will_ wrote:I'd say get a 4K, and spend the leftover money (around $900) on modding it.
The ol' 4k's have quite a bit of potential!! (for a 1300)

or do the same to a 2T. ol'school all the way.

as will stated, you can buy an old p/r motor, freshen it, mod it for the budget you have and would have some change for gas money.

by **CozmoNz** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:58 pm

oh goodie, so for 1k he can buy a 6sp box, and THATS IT.

i say 4age, or be creative, 3sgte... buy chickenmans

(or has he sold it)

by **fangsport** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:11 pm

bad20v wrote:Ok, its time for an engine swap for my KP60. The 2k's getting pretty tired and severly lacking in grunt for the upcoming tarmac motorkana series in winter.
I was thinking bout putting in a 4k 1300 engine, standard or worked, and keep in the same racing class. Or maybe setup to the next class 1301 - 1600cc, and install a 4age. Maybe even a 20v like Quibel's got in his KP61.
So with budget of around $1000, I need some advice on what would be my best "bang for a buck" engine, and any advice on where to obtain the parts and accessories required to install it.

Cheers.

what part of 0-1300 or 1300-1600 is everyone missing???????????????
yeah, i know a 3T is 1770cc, but if it is in a 2T block, who's to know!!!

by **bad20v** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:56 pm

Cheers guys you have given me sum good ideas, I like the 2a with 4age head idea, Mr Revhead, it could be a plan, but no one has really told me where to find these engines for a good price yet? I need to have it in the car and goin by the 22nd of May for the PCC Tarmac Motorkana series.

by **fangsport** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:08 pm

not too sure on price, but a G13b or a G16b Suzuki engine are pretty impressive. Last year NZ Clubsport junior champ has one in his Starlet. Goes good.

by **bad20v** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:10 pm

where and what price please?

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