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by **NA Drifter** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:55 pm

1st look, it look like bigport 4age(due to rwd manifold), and then just the motor itself look like small port 4age due to timing belt cover(got hole in the middle),dip stick, lead cover/holder, cam cover,dizzy plug.... etc (but all this can be changed easily)
BUT, I never seen a rwd intake manifold for smallport 4AGE!?!??

maybe is just an aftermarket rwd manifold for smallport 4age??

from...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/0001-0877-2794-2797-/auction-29490839.htm

by **gdsup** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:02 am

I say its a bigport tvis of either description with redtop/smallport dizzy and injectors

by **matt dunn** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:27 am

Have a look and see if it has the external oil drain out of the back of the head and back into the block. my guess is it doesnt and that means it's a Big port.
Looks to me like someone has fitted as many small port parts as possible to try and con someone into thinking it is actually a smallport when it is not.

matt

by **RedMist** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:03 am

Looks to have only 4 inlet runners. If so my guess someone has grafted a RWD plenum to a smallport.

by **THA SHZ** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:36 am

Didnt smallport only come out non-tvis

by **mr pad** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:57 am

Yeah but that dosn't mean it cant be fitted with a tvis manifold.

by **RedMist** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:11 am

Smallport only came out non-tvis and FWD. All TVIS manifolds have 8 runners, hence the reason I think this is a smallport with a TVIS intake plenum grafted to the 4 runner manifold.
Its certainly a TVIS plenum as the smallport plenum doesnt have a casting for the TVIS lable!

by **XS1V** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:27 am

Yea looks like a smallport with a bigport inlet manifold, when looking at injectors they are evenly spaced unlike fuel rail of bigport engine, as well as dizzy, plug cover, dipstick etc

by **ants_ae92** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:31 pm

Is it possible they didnt cut and shut the manifold but simply adapted the big port plenum (with tvis insignia part on top) to the small port 4 runners?
On the strength of that I would say small port.

This guy obviously has a few engines lying around, looks like a beams 3sge or 2zzge plenum on the right side?

by **spencer** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:32 pm

RedMist wrote:Looks to have only 4 inlet runners. If so my guess someone has grafted a RWD plenum to a smallport.

Thats what I'd go with only looks to be 4 runners. Have a look under the manifold for some welding

by **matt dunn** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:26 pm

From my point of view it look to have 8 runners.

Not that you can see much of it but looking beside the TPS and next to the fuel pipe..

I still say bigport.

Matt

by **Mr Revhead** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:03 pm

yeah looks like 8 runners to me.... look at the gearbox end of the manifold.
and the dipstick and dizzy look just like the ones on my bigport. also the "twincam 16 valve" looks to have been painted in a non factory colour.
the fuel rail isnt bolted in properly... i say some ones trying to be tricky :lol:

by **NZ_AE86** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:48 pm

There are 8 runners in my picture too! I would say it is just a bigport with a couple of covers bolted on.

by **THA SHZ** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:53 pm

NZ_AE86 wrote:There are 8 runners in my picture too! I would say it is just a bigport with a couple of covers bolted on.

my point exactly , agreed

by **spencer** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:13 am

hmm my bad when you look below the cold start injector it looks like theres 8 runners bigport is is then.

by **2LTR Rona** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:51 am

and to throw another in to the mix, what are you ideas on which 4AGE this one is

Ohh and on a side note, its now very close to Warrant check time

by **spencer** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:01 pm

bigport agian?

by **XS1V** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:18 pm

Yea thats a bigport for definate most probably a blue top as you would expect in rearwheel, has two inlet side cam covers on, looks interesting :wink:

by **2LTR Rona** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:01 pm

4ageflyer wrote:Yea thats a bigport for definate most probably a blue top as you would expect in rearwheel, has two inlet side cam covers on, looks interesting

take a look at pics in my profile :wink:

i had a gutt feel for the blue top but wasnt sure

by JT » Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:41 am

2LTR Rona wrote:
4ageflyer wrote:Yea thats a bigport for definate most probably a blue top as you would expect in rearwheel, has two inlet side cam covers on, looks interesting

take a look at pics in my profile i had a gutt feel for the blue top but wasnt sure

You took the head off to check for any damage? Can tell easy by the size of the inlet ports, didn't get the nickname big port for nothin :wink:

How was the engine condition? Any goodies you've found on the car?

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